zyrcster says
2009-11-15T19:50:34.000Z
the higher the level of hyperbole, the less inclined I am to care. That's a general preference.
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Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T19:58:44.000Z
You have to admit some are rather amusing hyperboles. Like the one of me slaving over the keyboard.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T20:03:45.000Z
hahaha. OK, that one cracked me up.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T20:06:34.000Z
also, I do care, I just don't care to deal with shrill. Rational I can deal with and care about.
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zyrcster thinks
2009-11-15T20:07:08.000Z
striatic had a very rational response, for example, and I cared and wondered about it.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:32:15.000Z
See the first two paragraphs in stri's response though. Particularly the first one.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T20:38:38.000Z
*shrug* it's not hyperbole, though, at least I don't see it that way. The ones about addressing what others have addressed?
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:45:03.000Z
Ah no, of course nothing of what stri said is hyperbole. My point is that he's agreeing with what others said.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:46:00.000Z
His "not going to criticize" doesn't mean "agree with", but rather "has been done already". I also object to the ads.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:46:53.000Z
Much like KPLU drumming on about being an ad-free radio station, but having constant and increasing "sponsors"...
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:47:26.000Z
It doesn't matter if it's called a promo. The minimized thingie on the homepage is an ad. Pro users aren't supposed to get ads.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:48:45.000Z
I used to support KPLU financially, but stopped because of their duplicitous denial of having ads.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:50:26.000Z
Flickr has reneged on the "no ads" promise, even if not officially yet. An the issue with the highlighted print button...
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T20:50:48.000Z
The "fixed the bug" response was rather insulting. I've seen that button for years. I don't need "an opportunity to see it".
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T20:52:41.000Z
;-)
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T20:53:21.000Z
yea, understand, it's the shrillness that turns me off, not the concern itself. I hear y'all.
curiouskiwi says
2009-11-15T20:58:11.000Z
I felt bad about reporting that yellow highlight thing. I thought the fix would be to turn it off for people who had never seen the button.
curiouskiwi says
2009-11-15T20:58:21.000Z
...not turn it on for everyone! :-(
curiouskiwi says
2009-11-15T20:58:46.000Z
I mean, turn it off for people who already had print enabled... as it wasn't new for us.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T21:33:30.000Z
:/
striatic was
2009-11-15T22:35:23.000Z
being snarky, not hyperbolic : ]
zyrcster likes
2009-11-15T22:39:20.000Z
snark. :-D
striatic says
2009-11-15T22:39:48.000Z
the yellow button thing i don't really think is a big deal since you only see it on your own photos.
striatic says
2009-11-15T22:40:21.000Z
unlike the big blue ad button that actually impacts how other people see your photos, which is really all that matters anyway.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T22:40:54.000Z
you mean the logged-out big blue banner?
striatic says
2009-11-15T22:41:08.000Z
yes. that one : ]
zyrcster wonders
2009-11-15T22:42:28.000Z
why she isn't seeing that anymore. maybe because i'm on this guest pass i can't get rid of.... meh.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T22:43:56.000Z
oh yup, that was it.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T22:44:48.000Z
oh, there's an x on it to get rid of it. making it a cartoon speech balloon was a bit silly, though.
curiouskiwi says
2009-11-15T22:54:11.000Z
so how about getting rid of the snapfish ad on the homepage? any chance of an [x] for that too? ;-)
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T23:11:32.000Z
Alternatively, flickr could "fix" the "bug" in every place that says pro users don't get ads.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T23:11:44.000Z
(some snark for you ;-) )
zyrcster asks
2009-11-15T23:48:33.000Z
for snark and gets snark! YAY! snark FTW!
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T23:49:26.000Z
so, the line I'm carrying indicates that the snapfish marketing (not advertising) module on the home page is now consistent....
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T23:49:39.000Z
.... with the other modules.
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T23:49:43.000Z
>:-)
zyrcster says
2009-11-15T23:50:26.000Z
hrm. that was not supposed to make a smiley face. (evil_grin)
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-15T23:56:28.000Z
I saw that. And yet calling it "marketing" doesn't make it less of an ad, and saying it is consistent doesn't make it consistent.
curiouskiwi says
2009-11-15T23:58:54.000Z
consistent in what way? It's still a big grey box, and the only grey box that I have on that page?
curiouskiwi says
2009-11-16T00:01:26.000Z
why not just make it part of that rotating (and refreshable) little widget right above it?
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:09:40.000Z
Precisely. A changing panel that sometimes tells me that "flickr and snapfish have partnered" is informative...
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:10:31.000Z
But a constant panel telling me things like "your photos will love Snapfish!" is an AD, no matter what flickr calls it.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:11:25.000Z
One panel rotates various informative tidbits, the other continuously advertises printing via Snapfish.
zyrcster says
2009-11-16T00:14:18.000Z
'consistent' in that you can minimize it! :-D
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:25:22.000Z
Er... have you looked at what other modules look like when minimized?
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:26:10.000Z
Compare the small font, no highlight, "Check your recent activity, to see what's new." with the big font, highlighted Snapfish ad.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:26:43.000Z
Consistent would have the ad show as the same small font, same lack of highlight, and the text should not be so pushy as it is now.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:26:51.000Z
For example, "Learn more about printing."
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:28:08.000Z
The current format is consistent with what I see with my free acount, inviting me to go pro.
Gwênlyn says
2009-11-16T00:28:35.000Z
"Holy Smokes! That's cheap! Get a year of pro for $24.95" - a clear ad for a non-pro user.
zyrcster says
2009-11-16T00:29:54.000Z
yea, I see it, & I'm just unable to comment. ;-)
striatic says
2009-11-16T00:56:18.000Z
i remember when i criticized the "sponsored group" ads.
striatic says
2009-11-16T00:57:28.000Z
i hated ads on flickr accounts before it was cool. :-) :-) :-)
striatic says
2009-11-16T00:57:38.000Z
well, flickr pro accounts.
eriktrips
2009-11-16T02:13:58.000Z
finally goes to look at his flickr page.
eriktrips says
2009-11-16T02:14:42.000Z
yeah I think if I had any say I would encourage whomever is in charge of this one to at least put a time limit on the snapfish "promo"
eriktrips says
2009-11-16T02:15:17.000Z
it does not take long to register the information that one can print at snapfish now and a smaller button..
eriktrips says
2009-11-16T02:15:58.000Z
that just said: "print with snapfish!" would be, in my eyes, a way to compromise between marketing and the promise of no ads.
eriktrips says
2009-11-16T02:17:40.000Z
as long as it was actually visually consistent with the rest of the page, which it is not, really, now.
eriktrips says
2009-11-16T02:17:50.000Z
consistent in behavior yes. in appearance no.
eriktrips wants
2009-11-16T02:20:48.000Z
some of whatever paypaul is on, otherwise. it clearly has caused him to fall deeply in love with his testerical self.
clickykbd
2009-11-16T09:28:33.000Z
so sorry I missed this one... stupid opera! ;-)
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