Since the fandoms I'm in are often too obscure for media literacy tests, I can't immediately think of an answer to this. Aside from maybe considering the flanderized fandom versions of Touhou characters to actually be canon.

(I'm aware Pokemon SV suffers from that problem too, like with Nemona.)

Also part of the reason I'm kind of glad Culdcept isn't mainstream because I DEFINITELY feel like Zeneth would be victim to this if it was

It's Lotor from Voltron from me. If you don't think the show did him dirty you're wrong.

I've noticed plenty of people don't understand morally grey characters well, hence why I said Zeneth would be a victim of this

People cannot handle the concept of moral greyness, I swear

Oh yeah, I remember something in particular related to the Touhou one. If you GENUINELY think the fandom interpretation of Alice Margatroid being a Yandere is actually how she acts, I'm going to smack you with her own Grimoire.

Nemona isn't a Yandere either. She's someone who genuinely has bad social skills due to her upbringing and wants someone who can be toe to toe with her. A yandere to me is someone who wants full power over someone else, when Nemona doesn't want that. She wants to be on equal footing with the player.

She may be a bit of a lighthearted blood knight AT MOST.

Also she's overexcitable over having a friend for once.

Jynxed: Also, how so? /gen

As someone who hasn't seen Voltron

Basically he was clearly and obviously neglected and abused and had a very bad model of morals, but for the most part still manages to maintain a moral code despite their best efforts to beat it out of him. He goes too far and potentially does things that go too far but it seems to be for the greater benefit of people

but instead of getting his redemption he loses his mind, has his agency removed, is dismissed as having been a villain the whole time by the Princess and knights, and gets basically left to rot abandoned in the same hell he tried to save others from.

WOW

That IS dirty

Yeah, I will FOREVER remain salty.

We never get anti-heroes that are actually a long ways towards being good on their own who come from horrible parents

VERY UNDERSTANDABLE. I hate it when the reverse happens too. A character who didn't deserve redemption gets one and they are still awful

Yesss

The reverse is arguably worse because I've actually seen that kind of character bring down what could have been a solid story.

like ngl some of the things he may have done to one race of people has the potential to be genocide with extra steps, or I think it was him doing non-consensual experiments trying to save even more people than he was hurting. But there's no saying it was a GOOD thing he did

but we never get an answer because a violent small section of the fandom went rabid

and they seem to have changed the story and left big loose threads to make a violent, vocal minority happy

Because they had no media literacy and only wanted to see him as evil for his mistakes and not being on the same page as everyone in the complex big scheme of what is okay to do to save people, versus what takes it too far

OOOF. Yeah, sounds like a Well-Intentioned Extremist

And I think they called him racist and all this stuff

and yeah

it's obvious they didn't understand he is well intentioned but with a lot of power and no good moral guides

YE.

and the team WAS teaching him and he was growing

but basically had to mainline some space super coke to save the Paladins... and that led into him going off the deep end after his mother recaptured him

doing more of the space coke that fucked up his parents that he was trying to find a way to reverse the effects of

Sounds like undone character development

EXACTLY

I hate that so much

like they could have shown that it was what he was willing to do for the greater good

but the good guys basically gave up on him instead

It sounds like it! And YIKES

Yeah

It;s so much Yikes that I have rewritten that in RP with one of my friends... kicking out the princess and having Lance and Lotor smashing and being supportive of each other like kings

SOUNDS GREAT

Also, I recall there was a character in Miraculous Ladybug that had undone character development too (I think her name was Chole?) and that's just sad

Yessss

Hold on IfIHadHeart did I miss anything big?

Also if you didn't see Chicklet's post for Kaite say hi she's new here

oh man. it's Maleficent for me, in the 1959 original Disney Sleeping Beauty. hands down.

like, quick question - who was the actual "bad guy" in that one? I can rant about that for hours. freaking sexist France, seriously

Nope that's Lotor. Very accurate.
And yes! Chloe. I will forever be salty about Chloe but please don't us Miraculous as an benchmark or standard for anything writing related other than "this? This is what we're not going to do"

I have 900000+ bones to pick with Miraculous and a lot of them are in the writing.

Also welcome to Plurk hope you enjoy your stay

I doubt that I will ever survive a Miraculous episode marathon to save my life. There goes my sanity if I dare to do it.

Nightsail: Pretty sure it's even worse in the source material for not having Maleficent invited. From what I remember of Sleeping Beauty's original versions, they were a bit... UM.

Sleeping Beauty's HORRIFYING Origins (Disney)

oh, there was a ton of uh. questionable-by-today's-morals things in the older originals. but I mean, even just the animated Disney movie is.... I mean, I don't think they even hid it? they just... set the camera over here, to show things from this angle, and try framing it like they did, despite what's actually going on in the scene....

I love abitfrank's deep dives into fairy tales.

saaaaaaaame

Phelous also mentions some of the older Sleeping Beauty adaptations in one of his reviews. Just be wary of swearing if you watch his content.

IfIHadHeart: Also, thank you! A bit sad that what could have been a cute magical girl series ended up as flawed as it is.

Phelous?

another youtuber like abitfrank and Jon Solo?

btw:The Messed Up Origins of Sleeping Beauty | Disney Ex...

mariscorner: Friends of mine turned it into a drinking game, they regretted it and had to change the rules. We could have had so much but no...

Nightsail: A reviewer who often reviews bootleg toys and some bottom of the bin movies. He also does a lot of research into whatever he reviews.

Kaite20: you're welcome. I'm always going to be salty about the way a "girl power cartoon" treats it's female charactersv

He's also quite entertaining and helped get Dingo Pictures into the spotlight.

I forgot who the Anastasia mun is but somehow Dingo made their own take of Anastasia where... the Bluth design is used as a male love interest. The Dingo rabbit hole is crazy, man

IfIHadHeart: Also MOOD. (Gazes at how Winx Club season 5 onwards had a slippery slope of character derailing)

I happen to be an Anya/Anastasia mun but I’m also a Romanov history nerd and I can safely say that what happened to Anya’s RL counterpart and her family is way more gruesome than Don Bluth’s take.

mariscorner: Gotcha! And yeah, not too surprised

Anastasia (Dingo Pictures) - Phelous

Here's the Anastasia Dingo review too. It's even clear that he's done a bit of research on the original Anastasia story as well.

Still though, the fact they use the Bluth design for a love interest makes the Dingo version even more absurd.

The voice given to them isn't even fitting, hahaha