The new show has the NCR collapse, the Enclave have survived, and Shady Sands having been nuked off the map... all before New Vegas so it’s decanonized.

How can he be when Elon Musk exists

new vegas is explicitly canon to the show to the point where there's a mr. house cameo, the date given for the nuking is just wrong

Have they said that?

No but it's the only thing that makes sense given the context of the show having other things from new vegas in it

but this has gotten so far down in the game of telephone that people not watching the show only know the one thing to be mad about

(which is also funny because no one is talking about the actual giant retcon to fallout lore it makes)

I mean I’m sorry I heard they shit on the half the series I like?

Because it sounds like even if it doesn’t decanonize NV it does undo a lot of stuff from 1 and 2?

In complete fairness, I'd put even money on Chris Avellone nuking Shady Sands if he could get away with it

Just for very different reasons

Yeah that’d be different.

or, hear me out, bethesda routinely fucks their own lore within the fallout games already!

Sorry I didn't mean to come on that strong about it

It’s all good. I’m just having a real long day.

Todd Howard does come off as the sort to be that petty though when I think about it.

I have read before this happened, take it with a grain of salt, that it apparently irks the shit out of him people like New Vegas more than 3 or 4 critically.

(I also remember hearing he was irked as hell when Starfield failed to win the one award it was given a nomination for at TGA. So...yeah, this feels plausible)

Okay someone from Bethesda just tweeted out the timeline so yeah you were right, it’s an error.

good to have official confirmation