thetaClysm
3 months ago
hiveswap act 2 sat unplayed in my steam library for 4 years, but i finally fucking played it. and, lads. it's a weird feeling.
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thetaClysm
3 months ago
got it for free as a kickstarter backer, but i recall being very angry with the hiveswap team and hussie around the time it was released. for a few different reasons. so i decided not to play
thetaClysm
3 months ago
despite loving act 1 with all my heart
thetaClysm
3 months ago
in hindsight it's really fucking funny how much i blorbofied mallek adalov at the time, and then proceeded to not even play the chapter he debuted in lmfao
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thetaClysm
3 months ago
friendsim was way better for that anyway so it's whatever
thetaClysm
3 months ago
anyways i do not think act 2 was as good as act 1 and i really felt the difference with the head writer of act 1 not being on board anymore
thetaClysm
3 months ago
and i have extremely low confidence that we will ever see an act 3, which i am all kinds of conflicted about
thetaClysm
3 months ago
so why did i change my mind?? man i dunno. i guess it just still felt like an unresolved thing, in my brain. i wanted some kinda closure on it maybe??
thetaClysm
3 months ago
it felt weird having never found out how all that actually panned out
thetaClysm
3 months ago
considering how excited i had been about it, once upon a time
thetaClysm
3 months ago
if act 2 was bad then i could just forget about all this and stop caring about hiveswap. and if it were good, then... well. i dunno. i assumed i'd work out how i felt about it when the time came
thetaClysm
3 months ago
unfortunately act 2 was not bad and i'm still working out how i feel about it
thetaClysm
3 months ago
it was... scuffed, a bit buggy, some of the early dialogue felt a bit stilted, i'm a bit annoyed about how they kinda damsel-fied joey in a couple scenes, they massively cut down on all the incidental flavor text i found so charming in act 1 (in exchange for volumes upon volumes of dialogue, which act 1 almost entirely lacked)
thetaClysm
3 months ago
but it does a lot of things right too
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i didn't hate it. i want to know what happens next and i'm a little sad that that's probably not going to happen
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i was one of the rubes who backed the kickstarter back in 20 fuckin 12, so all the money i was ever gonna spend on hiveswap was already spent well before i started hating andrew hussie
thetaClysm
3 months ago
if act 3 ever happens then odds are good i will also be receiving that for free
thetaClysm
3 months ago
withholding my business is not a lever that is available to me to pull
thetaClysm
3 months ago
not playing act 2 back in 2020 was the closest to a moral stance i was able to take, and it was never going to accomplish much more than make me feel a little better about myself
thetaClysm
3 months ago
and it's debatable if i even achieved that much
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i didn't mean for this plurk to be so navel-gazey, i'm just in a weird frame of mind right now i guess!!
Thyme_Traveler
3 months ago
asking mostly for clarification, why did the Fandom generally turn their backs on Andrew Hussie? what I remember is that he took the Kickstarter money and didn't use it for the things he said he would.
Thyme_Traveler
3 months ago
and if answering this question opens up a can of worms, I apologize in advance and you can completely ignore the question.
thetaClysm
3 months ago
my recollection of the particulars is a little fuzzy, and my impression may not accurately reflect the overall fandom's, but.
thetaClysm
3 months ago
misappropriation of the kickstarter funds, possibly trumped-up accusations toward The Odd Gentlemen to shift the blame for said misappropriation,
thetaClysm
3 months ago
and, the thing that's my main bone to pick, severe mistreatment of the What Pumpkin new york team who were developing the originally-planned 3D version of Hiveswap, firing them all without warning or explanation and scrapping all their work, but then surreptitiously using some of their scrapped designs and assets in the final game without credit
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i found out later that an old friend of mine was on that team and had some severe trauma about it, so finding that out was the turning point for me
thetaClysm
3 months ago
most of this was happening way behind the scenes so most people did not know anything about it until years after the fact
thetaClysm
3 months ago
and i seem to recall there being a thing with the initial release of act 2 where... the game contained no credits?? or something like that??? and given the above, that was what tipped me all the way over into not wanting to play it
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i went looking for my old tweets about it but they're so far back in the timeline twitter won't even load them anymore. so i can't dig up the specific details unfortunately
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i remember them giving some perfunctory reason, maybe about devs being targets for harassment or something like that?? which, no, that's no excuse for not crediting people who made your game. being in the credits is crucial in the game dev industry, by all accounts, so to me it just felt like devs and artists being shortchanged again
thetaClysm
3 months ago
fwiw the credits are in the game now, so if that was the issue, then they did resolve it
thetaClysm
3 months ago
https://images.plurk.com/2BwdjO1oe2LCL0W6ykKTxJ.png well i guess i remembered more or less correctly
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i remember being incredibly skeptical about this response, so i guess i took a kind of "once bitten" sort of attitude toward the notion of artists not being credited for their work on hiveswap and dumped them out of anger at that stage
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i feel like i've memory holed a lot of the specific things that really soured me on hussie specifically as a person because i know it was more than the TOG situation and i'm still unsure how much of the blame for the WPNY situation falls on hussie specifically versus whoever the fuck else might have been in charge of those decisions
thetaClysm
3 months ago
i might need to rewatch those old sarah z videos just to refresh my memory lmfao
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