Nox
2024-10-05T00:03:29.000Z
Nox
2024-10-05T00:03:49.000Z
"The bad guys won World War II"
Nox
2024-10-05T00:04:08.000Z
get the fuck out of here
Nox
2024-10-05T00:05:52.000Z 2024-10-05T00:14:48.000Z
"the war was about advancing our interests abroad"
unless you count "Japan stops going on a big murder spree in China / Manchuria (messy political situation meant de facto Chinese government control was dubious at the time) and they should stop" as a "US interest" the answer is a big fucking NO
Nox
2024-10-05T00:06:22.000Z
because they were the only ones we were actually actively pressuring before the US got involved
Nox
2024-10-05T00:09:03.000Z
(Germany declared war on us like 3 days after Pearl Harbor if I remember right, and considering they'd already not just attacked but sunk US Navy vessels well before that point and we didnt declare war, it's a hard sell saying we only went after them for our own interests)
Nox
2024-10-05T00:10:50.000Z
but also: consider that with all the criticisms you could make about Mao, Stalin, Churchill, and FDR, the fact that they all agreed that the other guys were much worse and a solid majority of the rest of the world agreed with them....
Hyatt
2024-10-05T00:11:56.000Z
at least he said there were no "good guys" in the war, so he's not trying to out-Nazi the NC guy
Hyatt
2024-10-05T00:14:20.000Z
but I gotta wonder what he thinks should have happened. all belligerents bombed each other into the Stone Age?
Nox
2024-10-05T00:15:39.000Z
As far as I know he's never specified, but my money is on him thinking the US should have somehow stayed out of the war
Nox
2024-10-05T00:16:15.000Z
(despite, y'know, Japan attacking Pearl Harbor and Germany declaring war on us)
Nox
2024-10-05T00:16:46.000Z
(like THE DECISION WAS KINDA MADE FOR US)
Nox
2024-10-05T00:18:10.000Z
(Roosevelt was trying to slowly prime the country to take some kind of action against Germany, but support for it wasn't solid until after we were attacked and had war declared against us)
he knows the nazis hated black people too right
Nox
2024-10-05T00:32:26.000Z
I'm not even sure he even knows how we got involved in World War II, much less what anyone involved wanted