one of the much quieter precautions Jedao takes is that he just doesn't have his engine room key on him all the time. he probably wouldn't have taken it on vacation but even if he did, canonically all his shit was smashed under the Enposib and he washed up on the bank with nothing

he....shouldn't have it for this

Oh oh ohhhhhhh. So Pyotr could have found the key?

Honestly I've wondered this for other items and keys too and it's kinda... Hmm

So I do wonder if another solution could be found because "so much stuff was lost in the Enposib crash so now the barge is more magically impervious" is a bit anticlimactic

No, it looks like Pyotr will not be able to get into the engine room at all, then.

If the key is in the bottom of the ocean on that planet with the Enposib.

Unless someone was down there scavenging

hmmm

There was a lot of people moving in and out of there, before and after the NS arrived

what if someone scavenged from his room?

he was on deck when the wave hit?

or, now, you said he would have left it on the barge to begin with....

So I guess the question is, did he leave it on the barge or in the enposib?

Or if Jedao asked for it back now that the Admiral is in range for supplies/replacements...?

(if it were in fact on the bottom of the ocean)

hmmmmmmmm I think - well, if Jedao had brought it on the Enposib, which isn't impossible, it's important enough that he would have been sure to salvage it, even if he had to do some crazy gravity shit to the ship

maybe he asked someone else to carry it while he was sans pockets and then gets it back before going back to the barge?

if he left it in his cabin it's possible he could then go grab it to check on the engine room, also

I think I like the first better, I will figure out a workaround

most wardens would definitely have kept their items

since they still had inmate life tracking abilities and whatnot, and lots of folks did not get As Wrecked in the crash

Who would he trust and is there still a way for it to end up in Yennefers hands?

he'd probably most likely trust it to Edwin, but if Jedao asks for it back once returned to the barge we can do something pretty close to the original plan

do we still want to go with Pyotr attacking him first or him telling Yennefer that Jedao is the Engine Room warden?

I think I would rather go with Pyotr attacking him first, simply because then it gives Movie Club more info about the engine room and I like him getting away with the "I was possessed" con, lol

I'm cool with either, as long as Pyotr attacking him first doesn't pull an army of people to protect Jedao. Though Yen has been able to handle rather large groups in canon, too

Maybe he could take the engine room key and give her the warden item, assuming Jedao has that too?

so then she can go trash enclosure or whatever

just brainstorming...

Is our aim to do some damage to the engine room?

Because she will be down there anyway doing damage

Oh the engine room isn't that where one of sjy's pets ended up?

the winged cat

I dont think it will be possible to do damage to the engine room because there are protective spells on it that transport anyone who enters that doesnt have the right blood (I think it was) to the holding floor on room 8. so I was just looking for ways to allow Yennifer to do damage elsewhere

holding room on floor 8** lol

Oh my bad. I assumed with the key it would be different

But if Pyotr attacks him in the engine room it's open and Jedao is in it?

the thought is Pyotr getting the key from him, then going to the engine room, then getting ported out - that sets him up to have more info!

he won't have a warden item bc his item is cards and they were super destroyed in the crash

but there are a lot more of those that might be stealable

/nodnod

he's gonna need to request a new one eventually

and yes, mwingzero Glissandi the winged cat magic robot is a guard/alarm in there, but the alarm goes to Jedao so

whoops

maybe if NS'ers see what happens with the engine room, that people go in and immediately get teleported out, maybe one of them will try just chucking a grenade in it >_>

and also Florian but even calling back up he can be a step or two behind

ooops indeed but yeah so just saying that even with the alarm and stuff she's still a cat and cats can be sneaky / starts shielding an alarm in his ear and flying around knocking things on him kinda thought there

I mean, Ye Zun made her and said at the time she'd learn tricks as she hung around! but if no one is in there who shouldn't be for more than a split second, she might not come into play until the next attempt

onemuon I definitely want to let a cool attempt happen but I also do kind of want the fact that they set up all these IC precautions months ago to like....matter

got it, i am not planning for pyotr to be able to accomplish anything this time

or ever, really

okay, just wanted to make sure everybody's on the same page

(cause, low key, while it's definitely POSSIBLE for a handwavy ambiguously powered-up Pyotr with the vagueness of MCU to temporarily disable Jedao, it would definitely take some luck and him not like....fighting fully at the top of his abilities. which is plausible! but I don't want there to be really bad consequences for the Engine Room because he failed

at something he'd usually be quite good at, because he's really invested in the Engine Room and it'd be pretty unfun for me to play the aftermath of that in that way)

i understand, nothing shall happen to the engine room then

I'm 100% not saying the barge revolutionaries can't ever get into it (and the grenade idea is great....as long as Gliss doesn't bat it back xD) , but not when I've kinda bent Jedao's likelihood to take the L from his baseline

thank you for understanding, I know it's fun to come up with a MILLION ideas when there's a huge runup to stuff like this

lilbeejack is that all OK with you too? I def want Yennifer to be able to so some big fuckery in various locations

(she could probably do some magic to just telekinetically steal an item if Pyotr can ID one for her that someone is willing to have nabbed?) and that would get her into the Enclosure if that's a target

idk about folks with kitchen keys

is it okay if the lesson pyotr takes from this is "i should have chucked a grenade, i'll do that next time?" (there may never be a next time)

oh no perfectly understandable it was a thought because cat! you know how it goes.

yeah, definitely!

re: getting the grenade idea!

this is praxis

got to.... learn from the struggle...

(i think it would be SO funny if there is a next time - and with Harry coming in and getting an Engine Key there will probably be opportunities - and then the cat gargoyle robot guard just. cat swipes the grenade back out into the hall)

wait, harry going to work in the engine room? omg omg

Pyotr: godDAMNit. okay plan 3

and yeah, i am so down for the robot cat swiping it back next time that would be SO FUNNY

PRAXIS!!! TIME FOR PLAN 3!!! AT LEAST IM TRYING HERE!!!

also Maniette what are your thoughts on Harry entering the engine room with every surety that the admiral has given him authority, only he ALSO gets booted out bc he hasn't gotten put onto the magic passwords yet. and a bleary jedao has to go get him and say sorry dude

honestly that's so funny and on par with Harry's general life

i love harry so much... lmao

Gliss the not!robot robot cat just eying the weird round thing and going no f that and bats it out the door

(what his critters are is more like a spirit housed inside a metal frame so less robot and more possession. they're golems of sort)

cat golem!!! love that way to describe it

yeah, that's cool. can i still stick to her doing some damage to the 8th floor outside the engine room (for what it's worth Natasha can hand hers off, too, if getting another one doesn't happen). I was just looking to find a way to keep things even, hit for hit.

if i made a pain in the ass out of myself for making too many grabby hands, I apologize

she can absolutely still fuck up 8th floor! and you are great, I just realized things were getting closer to my having committed to something that was getting bigger than I'd anticipated, thanks for flexible with it <3

i also agree that it is more interesting if things are more even in the fight

alright, awesome <3 let me know if her fucking things up is better before or after Pytor and Jedao's exchange?

obviously after will make getting to the door a bit challenging

er before*

I don't think it makes a huge difference, but if Yen fucks up level 8 first it might also put Jedao more on guard, so lets say her attack is after?

sounds good!

gotta ask, who is Harry?

he's a vidya character whom Mani has apped who will be arriving immediately post-event lol

ah, cool

Harry!

Fuzzytale he will most likely be pyotr's permanent warden

he's basically an eastern Europe post-revolution police officer. who has complete retrograde amnesia and his feelings literally talk to him

the Vibes of the GeomeTree

nostalgically posting with the character who originally put it there

you know... Shen Wei really should have spent some time with the geometree, I just always forgot it was there :/

oooh

Maniette: lol, that is some bullshit right there, and I love him already. He'll fit in perfectly with everyone else's bullshit!

the character's journal name

full circle moment if i ever saw one

I don't remember/know all the details but in case it's still relevant, the engine room on the Barge also has a roomba security robot that Cloud and Nico built XD

(er, all the details about this plan to get into the engine room that is)

...I think I might have lost that thread actually, do I owe you a tag on it?

....also is it roomba shaped and Gliss (mechanical cat golem) can ride on it, please say yes

ye it's your tag on that one! and it is totally roomba shaped and the cat golem can totally ride on it XD

all good though, I haven't had the brainspace to tag anything prior to the NS showing up anyway, so much backtagging in my future

I will dig it up!!

Kahl has been super loud for the first time EVER, I've never had Jedao be the quieter character before sdlgnsd

that reminds me that I do owe you a tag for Kahl, I think!

oh no, I did tag that one...eventually ksfjgsd

where is that one? i thought I was mostly caught up on him O_O

it's the dream one, I can grab it

this one! it took me a billion years to tag it back cuz that's when work exploded sdkjg

DREAMS, omg

THERE

happy to chat it out if you want to move on from it but also happen to backtag life

ooh awesome I'm down to backtag it, once I catch up on pre-event things