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2 days ago
I'm going to try and articulate a vibe about anime and might fail because it's kind of vague but I feel it strongly
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I think that compared to a lot of western media
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anime has a different relationship with like
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signifiers
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semiotics
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here's an example of what I mean -
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the Phantom Thief genre
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in my head, what Phantom Thief means is
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it's a story about a flashy thief who does over-the-top heists while taunting the police, as the protagonist
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in anime, what Phantom Thief means as a genre is
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the police get a signed index card from the phantom thief announcing that they're going to steal a specific diamond
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then the main cop goes to defend it with 500 useless sub-cops, and then a bunch of spotlights all point up to on top of a skyscraper
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where a person wearing both a cape and a domino masks announces their presence and they engage in a battle of wits
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I say 'isekai', what I ostensibly mean is a story where a person from Earth is transported to a fantasy world to have adventures there
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anime says 'isekai', it means "a teenager with a specific haircut is killed, probably by a truck, and god tells him that he's being reincarnated in a fantasy world, where he gets busted super stats, because the game runs on RPG logic, and five to ten girls fall in love with him, at least one of whom is a princess and at least one of whom is a child slave"
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these genres get established and instead of just being focused on the core themes and ideas they also all share like fifteen really specific signifiers
moontouched
2 days ago
genre copycatting/follow the leader is definitely more noticeable where you can See it
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magical girls always have a little flying animal that does exposition at the protagonist and there's a really ostentatious transformation sequence where the girl is implied to get naked and then a more colorful outfit pops onto her to let her do her magic, which mostly takes the form of specific elemental attacks with english names
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2 days ago
like not even as a creative laziness thing
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many of these have lots of interesting and unique ideas in them
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but they gotta have the signifiers so that you know what you're watching
Carmen Sandiego is a Phantom Thief
But she doesn't really do that shit
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Carmen Sandiego is a phantom thief, but she's not a Phantom Thief
yes
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2 days ago
it's just a different way for genres to cluster
wedding rose??
2 days ago
Heck, DWRP does the same thing. You see a lot of the same sorts of setup beats in the average adventure city RP, for instance.
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2 days ago
oh absolutely yeah
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DWRP has a lot of Signifiers
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2 days ago
Or, to bring up a genre you're not fond of with apologies, the reason murdergames are split into mass-ex and scapegoat is that both subgenres have very set formulas with signifiers that are very, very different from each other.
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2 days ago
things that were associated with the genre during its rise and people keep adding, because they're the signifiers
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nods
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like characters respawning on death
Dead Mentors
2 days ago
superhero stories are also ripe with signifiers
Doctor Ansem
2 days ago
This feels like a question I always ask, as in "why's it gotta have the specific tropes though"
Jisu spitting facts
Honestly USA live action TV has been a challenge for me for this reason
To like confirm small details
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