L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
[reproduction inc. pregnancy, miscarriage, rape possibly] okay so you know how in fantasy there's this idea that the humans are outcompeting the longer-lived magicaller races by reproducing so fast?
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L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
and how they always wuss out by saying "yeah uh childhood is really long"?
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
but mysteriously pregnancy length isn't mentioned, so it's assumed to be around human?
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
so
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L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
I'm imagining a setting in which elves reproduce slowly not, or not just, because it takes them so long from birth to reproductive age, but because they are pregnant for literally a decade
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
why? because idk reasons why do they live a thousand years? that reason
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
and this works out more or less well in peacetime, but in times of war and turmoil...elves generally try not to get pregnant at all, because war and volcanoes and so on move at the same speed for everyone
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
and that's a fucking LONG time to be not in perfect control of your body, not to mention a HUGE number of chances for something to go wrong
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
(fights, falls, hard riding, etc etc)
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
and like. humans miscarry REALLY easily, compared to other mammals
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
and a lot of that is well before a pregnancy gets noticed, but under stress, the body does have a strong tendency to jettison the energy-draining deadweight
L'Cygna Tovah
13 hours ago
elves are worse that way, if anything
L'Cygna Tovah
12 hours ago
they have 900 years of adulthood; there will be another chance
L'Cygna Tovah
12 hours ago
(do elves go through menopause? discuss)
Morgana9971
12 hours ago
these are good thoughts
rar🍲
12 hours ago
fyeah i do like these thoughts
rar🍲
12 hours ago
i was trying to answer a similar question for the fic im currently poking at but "does the version of humans that lives on this funny AU world reproduce at a different rate than normal humans" , while the ansewr is probably "yes", is also. like EXTREMELY far down on the list of things that actually matter in this fic,
big woop
12 hours ago
If they've got a long gestation period and are as prone to early miscarriage as humans or worse, and also have a much longer reproductive life, that might even lead to like... attitudes toward early pregnancy that make them even less likely to carry to term?
big woop
12 hours ago
like less "I want to know As Soon As Possible" and more "does the first trimester even really count as pregnancy"
Morgana9971
12 hours ago
Might tie in well with the "Common" take that longer lived races have much lower birthrates compared to humans. If everyone believes elves don't get pregnant often not because they're "less fertile" or whatever, it's just that they simply don't acknowledge it until much much later
Morgana9971
12 hours ago
Which is funny, to me
L'Cygna Tovah
12 hours ago
feeling like that Really Counts is honestly a pretty ahistorical attitude in general
L'Cygna Tovah
12 hours ago
"life begins at conception" is just not...a thing
Morgana9971
12 hours ago
fair enough
L'Cygna Tovah
12 hours ago
but also yeah the idea that you don't even announce it until fully halfway through could be fun
any other name
11 hours ago
life used to begin at quickening, right? so it's not a baby you don't announce it until you feel the baby move
L'Cygna Tovah
11 hours ago
yeah that!
Ziri✖O
3 hours ago
Me sitting here with my Thoughts because I have thoughts on this but for viera who are also long lived but children are rare and I want to know why
Ziri✖O
3 hours ago
But if pregnancy lasts a decade I vpuld absolutely see elves not noticing in the early stages. How many people don't even realize they are until the second trimester anyway
L'Cygna Tovah
16 minutes ago
DEFINITELY also true, if you're not actively Trying then it's very easy to not pay attention
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