"abortifacient effects"???

o.O

I guess that puts carbolic soap to shame.

so not only does it stop bedbugs in their tracks, it makes rats uteruses eat their own babies?

and it makes nice cosmetics?

Am I missing something here or has the world always been this messed up?

what made you look that up?

Bendy's plerk on traumatic insemination

I followed links off that pace to dichotomathingagummy earth and Neem oil

haha, the illogical logic of google searches

ah diatomaceous earth.

thats the one

yeah, I'd done a lot of reading on that when I dealt with my bedbug problem. I didn't encounter anything about Neem Oil though.

I could say it, but I couldn't spell it. It was a clue to the murderer on Bones one night..diatomaceous eart..

Uhm.

Yeah.

and strangely enough, these were all linked to from other wiki pages, no googles were molested to find this... "neem oil"...

its a water repellant too, which kinda makes me wonder why its so great at getting rid of bedbugs

why I didn't see this before, and where one can get it. I'm all for killing bugs, although I don't want to smear oil all over my apartment

maybe it gets their little legs and proboscises all sticky and they keep slipping and falling over?

the diatomaceous earth wasn't effective, btw. What worked was spending about a week vacuuming the living Hell out of everything, throwing

out as much furniture as possible, steam cleaning all carpets, laundering everything, taking apart the bed, then encasing the mattress in a

I know they dont like climbing metal, so perhaps it would pay for us to sleep between aluminium foil sheets for a few months?

ridiculously expensive full enclosure thing, one that's lined with a rubbery type material.

if they don't like climbing metal, why was there a bunch of them clinging to my bedframe and inside the box spring, including the metal bits

my bedframe is metal

dammit - this is what I get for trusting wikipedia it seems

I had to literally take it apart, completely, into a pile of metal slats, and they were hiding all over. It's not just the Wiki, I read

that they don't climb metal/like metal all over during my research.

I must have had rebels.

ugh, what a trial, it's amazing how persistent and prolific bugs are.

cunning little buggers probably hitched a ride up on one of the cats

still traumatized, despite being free of them for years now. I am about 95% sure they had to come from a neighbour who'd recently moved in.

one of the worst parts was that I had horrible rashes all over my arms for months before I finally found out why.

the doctors said it looked to be an allergic reaction, but there was nothing to tie it to. Turns out I'm allergic to bedbugs, and the nasty

things were hiding and feeding on me while I slept.

that's horrible

I hope I never have to deal with them again, that's for sure. It's also one of those things that has a crappy social stigma attached to it

the social stigma is the least of it. I have enough trouble coming to terms with other PEOPLE mauling you, dont even get me started on bugs!

but, in some kind of wacky poetic justice, my then best friend, who could be awfully mean, who had refused to "allow" me to visit her place

wouldn't visit my place, or wouldn't even hang out with me while I was dealing with getting rid of the things...she got bedbugs a year later

oh yeah...

HAHAHA!!!

and she is OCD clean/germaphobe. The guy living above her had an infestation.

perfect.

she sure changed her tune after that one, now that she knew how horrible it was, and how it had nothing to do with cleanliness or lack of

was this before or after she plugged all the spy holes in her ceiling with tampons?

my daughter's kid had headlice.

this was after, and that was at the motel she had to stay in when there was a fire in her apartment building.

ahhh, gotcha

ah yeah, another social stigma thing.

another one of the socially unacceptable bug things.

yes

i'm really seriously glad we never had it, it's tough to get rid of.

I've never had them, but have known many that have, including my brother. It's so common among school kids, I remember that we had to get

regular checks at school.

yes, we did too.

and I never had them, and none of my kids did, thankfully, they can be hard to get rid of too.

the worst was what happened when my 1st cat got pinworms. He was my cat, but I was the only one in the house that wasn't affected.

oh, that sucks.

I'm still trying to imagine how parents can deal with that without traumatizing their children, especially young ones, ones that are too

young to understand why you have to uh, look in their bums.

ummm, yeah

I'm glad I never had to go there.

if this is part of why my mother has never liked cats, or any of my pets for that matter.

could be, I know my parents were both raised on a farm, and they absolutely cannot understand why I have animals in the house.

"Hai, I bring you gift of bum worms, k?"

might be just a way to keep the bugs outside.

heh, yeah. Since I've lived in the city ever since I left at 15, my cats have been indoor only, which has cut down on some of the unpleasant

but now we have the awesome pesticides, which make us more comfortable, probably while killing the planet, but hey, no bum worms.

things that can come with pets.

yes, and keeping them indoors only helps alot.

my OCD friend was quite angry that DDT was banned, because she didn't care how damaging it was, all she knew is that it killed bedbugs.

besides all the methods I mentioned above, I used every sort of "green" pesticide I could, as well as Borax and a few other things.

I didn't want chemicals around my cats.

silicon dioxide seems to be the most commonly available "green" pesticide, and oddly, since using the pesticide version, I've come to find

that it's in food products as well.

and that's the tough thing too, we currently have a HUGE invasion of roly polys

nice :/

or whatever they are called. I mean a huge invasion, the basement is full of them, the yard is full of them, I don't know what to do about

them, maybe the diatomaceous earth?

at least they don't bite.

looking it up. Oh, "pill bugs", is another name.

roly polies?

yes, they suck.

tries not to freak out at the photos, as she's insect phobic.

yeah, I hate them!!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ar...

some people keep them as pets???

I wont go swimming in Port Phillip Bay of a night now, wont even wade barefoot in it for all the sea lice

what are sea lice?

what they sound like?

and fishing up that way is not such a great idea either, for those of you that have ever pulled a fish hook out of the water with a ...

pilchard's skeleton attached to it

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Se...

some control advice re: pillbugs

www.indobill.com/images/... and www.dixiediver.com/image...

they hang about in the water after dark and gang up on bigger things to bite them

pillbugs = slaters?

runs screaming from the plurk

but seriously, I need to try to get some sleep, I have my appointment tomorrow.

yeah, I have to go do bank duties too

ught to have done them today, but the weather is putrid outside

ok, ok, enough bugs, and I don't understand the pillbug thing here, we're in a drought, and there's no moisture in the basement.

goodnight, both of you

strange! Maybe it's a different type of bug. And thanks, you too, when you head there.

night marie, night mae *cuddles the pretty purple haired girl and covers her in wet sloppy kisses

eek, sloppy kisses. *is carried to bed and sets Jock out as a guard against Tigger wakings*

bah, I can't have you out guarding, you need to be sleeping with me, not staring down Tigger. I'll keep the bed warm while you figure out

a way to keep Tigger away and quiet, then you can join me Night!

making a face at "Neem cake".

OH it's not for human consumption, thank goodness.