jevvim
thinks 2008-11-05T19:45:18.000Z
by that logic, businesses don't earn profits either, they just impose private taxes on citizens.
jevvim
says 2008-11-05T19:59:55.000Z
but those "profits", who controls how much they make? The companies do, by setting their own "private tax" on their products.
jevvim
is 2008-11-05T20:01:17.000Z
just discussing the topic within your chosen Reagan framework.
You don't have to buy the product or service. You do have to pay the tax.
jevvim
says 2008-11-05T20:30:29.000Z
now you're not even consistent with your own argument!
jevvim
thinks 2008-11-05T20:30:48.000Z
if business just collects taxes, then not buying a product means you don't have to pay the tax, either.
jevvim
is 2008-11-05T20:31:47.000Z
trying to point out that for normal, elastic goods, business cannot raise prices arbitrarily, which means that business can be taxed.
jevvim
says 2008-11-05T20:32:06.000Z
in an inelastic market, yes, business would just pass taxes through.
Business passes the tax onto YOU, they don't take it from their own profits.
jevvim
2008-11-05T20:32:40.000Z
adds that most markets are competitive, and as long as the market is profitable, competition will lead to taxes not being passed through.
jevvim
says 2008-11-05T20:33:02.000Z
if business just "collects taxes", then their markets aren't competitive.
jevvim
thinks 2008-11-05T20:33:20.000Z
if markets aren't competitive, then you should ask why they aren't.
jevvim
says 2008-11-05T20:33:35.000Z
some markets are government-granted monopolies, or have been: utilities are a great example.
jevvim
thinks 2008-11-05T20:34:13.000Z
for any other business, though, the apparent pass-through of taxes suggests an oligarchy of price manipulation.
jevvim
2008-11-05T20:34:39.000Z
points to the cellular phone carriers as a potential oligarchy where Reagan's principle probably is correct.
jevvim
thinks 2008-11-05T20:34:55.000Z
the right answer, though, is not to avoid taxing of business but to ensure the marketplace is competitive.
jevvim
2008-11-05T20:40:02.000Z
realizes that in the above comments he should have used "oligopoly" and not "oligarchy".
So you think when a business in a competitive industry is taxed more, they just eat it?
jevvim
says 2008-11-05T20:44:35.000Z
not because they want to earn less profit, but because others may choose to leave their prices unchanged and increase their share.
jevvim
says 2008-11-05T20:45:21.000Z
when all of the players pass the tax through, that suggests an oligopoly or collusion in the industry.
...but not for long. Certainly competition drives down prices, but not forever.