fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Question, guys: what counts as 'sexual'? Finding something sexually arousing or actually thinking 'yeah I'd have sex with that'?
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SPARDASON
14 years ago
IDK
Gemini₰Split
14 years ago
Both, I think, since you have to find something somewhat arousing to want to have sex with it.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
What if you find it arousing but wouldn't ever in all honesty have sex with it?
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SPARDASON
14 years ago
IDK you're still like ... attracted to it but I think it counts?
SPARDASON
14 years ago
like, that music video I showed you! it's like WOW, YOU ARE REALLY HOT AND SEX WITH YOU WOULD BE VERY TEMPTING. BUT. HAHAHA NO.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
No, but if it isn't tempting!
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
If it's more of a "yeah, that's hot" but, like. Interest ends there.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
then .... I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN EXACTLY?
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I'M NOT SURE I KNOW WHAT I MEAN EITHER let me think here.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
Hmmmm I am not sure exactly if you found it *attractive* at all then because doesn't attractive sort of imply "i'd hit that?"
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I don't know! I have had many many instances where I have found people attractive but am not at all interested in hitting that.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
"I find this person incredibly aesthetically pleasing" is a different thing
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Oh, yeah, visually and sexually are two different things.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
But I've had sexual responses to people while not actually wanting to have sex with them and I don't. Know if that's a psychological thing
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
or a social thing or a habitual thing or what.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
Yeah I think you're still attracted to them.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
BUT LIKE, your logic brain still interferes sort of. You WOULDN'T EVER, but like... idk.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
so maybe TEMPTING is the wrong word because it implies that you are like, DEBATING WITH YOURSELF. When you are not exactly
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Okay, so then. If you find men sexually attractive, and are interested in having sex with them,
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
and you find women sexually attractive, and are NOT interested in having sex with them
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
(like, at all, ever, you aren't just CHOOSING not to have sex with them for whatever reason, there is no desire for actual sex),
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
are you bisexual?
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
(Note that this is not my actual case, it is just the least confusing way I could think of putting it.)
SPARDASON
14 years ago
UH. Hrn.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
This is my dilemma. :-(
SPARDASON
14 years ago
I think adding the BISEXUAL bit sort of confuses things though, because when it comes to HOW TO ID IN THE QUEER COMMUNITY that is different.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
like technically you might be bisexual but in *that* case, you'd better call yourself straight.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
BASICALLY YOUR ANALOGY BRINGS LIKE, A WHOLE DIFFERENT SET OF ISSUES so like better to just say it straight.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Fffft okay then I should probably just identify myself as bisexual. I think.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Or perhaps I should just lay out my 'rules' as I know them and let you guys come up with a name.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Seeing as when I am attracted to someone, I am not at all ever romantically or sexually attracted to anyone else at all.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
'Attracted' in the sense of even remotely entertaining even the fantasy of being with another person.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
But I will still occasionally think so-and-so is hot.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I'm not sure that that counts as being monogamous, because it isn't really a conscious choice for me. There is literally no interest past
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
the initial observation of someone else being sexually attractive, it's more like a side note or something.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
This is true regardless of whether the person I am attracted to is actually attracted to me in return. I literally cannot like anyone else
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
while I like that person.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
I don't know if that's a sexuality really...? That could just be like, your personality.
Gemini₰Split
14 years ago
mmm, it's tricky. Sounds more like you don't fit in the 'bi/gay/straight' labels... unless you take a very generic 'bisexual'
Gemini₰Split
14 years ago
It's almost more like you're [person]sexual. Like, idk, georgesexual, or katiesexual
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Yeah but how do you tell? :|a I mean, the difference between being asexual and being chaste is that one is a choice and the other is just a
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
state of being, right?
Gemini₰Split
14 years ago
Asexual is... not having the -interest- or -want- for sex-- chaste is choosing to ignore the wants
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Yeah! I've always personally identified as sort of single-target sexual, I guess. That's the only term for it I can think of. But it applies
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
romantically too, and FUCK YOU INTERNET stop lagging while I'm trying to have srs discussion.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
It gets really confusing when I'm between people I like.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Also when I like someone who doesn't like me back, which is pretty much just terrible terrible limbo.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
i'd call you bisexual. /shrug
SPARDASON
14 years ago
I mean the rest of it doesn't have much to do with bi/gay/whateverness. THAT IS JUST, idk, YOU.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Y'okay then.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Ahaha, that makes sense.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
"bisexual" doesn't also like, come with a HOW OFTEN YOU ARE ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE/WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE precondition.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
BUT THAT'S JUST ME
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I HONESTLY MIGHT BE PANSEXUAL but since I have never known anyone transgendered or whatever during a time that I am NOT targeting on someone
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I can't say for sure.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I have the feeling that the potential is there but. Idek.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
nooooo, don't use pansexual like that D8
SPARDASON
14 years ago
a lot of trans people find that really offensive, because it implies that they're this ~extra gender~ instead of like, just dudes or chicks
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I SAID OR WHATEVER I couldn't really think of how else to put it. I HAVE ONLY EVER HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ATTRACTED TO BIOLOGICAL GUYS
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
AND GIRLS.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
YEAH even that distinctions is sort of .... :/
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I might have the potential to be romantically attracted to all possible gender combinations but I honestly cannot say.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Well how should I put it then? DX
SPARDASON
14 years ago
IT'S REALLY BEST TO THINK OF TRANSMEN AND TRANSWOMEN AS JUST MEN AND WOMEN man. unless they like, specifically ID as genderqueer.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
gender neutral. whatever.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
SO LIKE, THEY STILL COUNT UNDER BEING BI
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
....THEN WHAT COUNTS UNDER BEING PAN? :|a
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Just genderqueer? Because I will say genderqueer from now on if that's the case.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
no no, like some people ID as like genderqueer, rather than like, male or female.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
REGARDLESS the only genderqueer person I can recall knowing personally is Nella, and she's taken.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
but if they id as men or women, just say that?
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
.....I don't know if that fits into my original statement of "I think I might be pansexual but I don't know for sure since I've never had
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
the opportunity to find out if I can be attracted to _____".
SPARDASON
14 years ago
TBH I AM NOT REALLY EDUCATED ENOUGH ON TRANS ISSUES TO REALLY BADGER YOU ON THIS but like, using pansexual specifically to include trans
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I meant trans and genderqueer and everything else out there! I just didn't want to try and fit it all in one plurk, I don't even know what
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
everything out there *is*.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
But I can see how some people might take offense.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Auuuugh verbal minefield.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
folks really bugs me, and also I don't really see why you have to FIND OUT if you are attracted to trans people.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
like, if you attracted to dudes, you're attracted to DUDES, and et cetera.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
....I guess?
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Idk it's late and I'm not thinking clearly.
SPARDASON
14 years ago
S'COOL so yeah, anyhow, I'd just go with bi if you wanna call yourself something
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I know logically that there probably isn't much difference between a biological dude and a transgendered dude but surely there must be SOME?
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Mnerf.
fullofjacuzzis is
14 years ago
there a term for only being sexually attracted to people on a purely case-by-case basis. :| I honestly don't feel I can say I ONLY LIKE
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
GIRLS OR DUDES but at the same time I don't have the experience to say otherwise so I am just.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
Talking in circles it seems.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
.........I am calling myself awesomesexual and calling a night. I AM SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO PPL I AM ROMANTICALLY ATTRACTED TO, AND
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I AM ROMANTICALLY ATTRACTED TO PEOPLE WHOM I FIND SUBJECTIVELY AWESOME, WHO CAN LIKELY BUT NOT DEFINITELY BE OF ANY GENDER IDENTIFICATION.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
I THINK.
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
God I don't even knooooow and I have work in five hours I am passing out now.
gremlin wife likes
14 years ago
awesomesexual, for the record. :|9
fullofjacuzzis
14 years ago
does too. Does not like the distinct *lack* of awesome happening in the other plurk.
gremlin wife
14 years ago
x________x;;
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