And since I watched anime for five years before that, and before THAT watched movies and stuff...yeah.

it really says something about anime when THE yuri couple before them was Hazuki/Hatsumi

DAMNIT THEY DIDN'T EVEN END UP TOGETHER

in the manga and game they did!

but yeah.... the anime end was e>>R<R>r7fuzfdzx

the anime made me want to flip a table

because, again, this was supposed to be THE Yuri couple pre-KannaMiko

it's kind of pathetic that THE yuri couple back then

ended on such a depressing note in the anime...

yeah, back then they were all "omg can't offend the watchers with TEH GHEY actually working out omg"

siiigh

would have worked as an ova

/just saiyan

that being said, I don't think it was a matter of "offending" anyone so much as it's the Japanese love of tragic endings.

this goes for any kind of romance genre

Not really, actually

Yuri had all those terribad endings because it was seen as a part of class S, which meant you could have something like that in school

and all, but you better grow out of it, and marry a guy, like a proper woman should.

And considering how incredibly hostile the japanese audience has shown to be towards "two women living together as adults"...

Oh yes, there is that

Example, Wife and Wife got a TON of hate on 2chan. It's...a small, harmless manga doing nothing bad or special.

but the target audience also finds that sort of stigma to be entertaining

Thats the thing. I doubt the makers of the yamibo anime realized that

noticing it is a pretty new thing.

you're probably right

The yuri anthologies are all very recent too. It's quite funny, a few years ago there wasn't any, and now there's four

(okay, its nothing compared to the 20+ yaoi ones, but ...4's a start right? :/ )

WELL at least they 're still better off than most yaoi manga series. In those, it

more common for one of the two lovers to DIE

rather than just... end

also significantly more sexual abuse

yeah, one of the yuri hime authors actually said in an interview that she loved doing yuri (she also did yaoi)

because she didn't have to add bad endings

well, Yh doesn't require those at least >.>

...Tho there is that ghost one whihc had a pretty crappy ending. Kiss -> vanish the ghost.

portrayals of homosexuality in fiction has always been an interest of mine

Japan has a fascinating set of rigid rules as to how it should be done, ha ha

that's one of the reasons why I like NanoFate so much

it doesn't really follow those rules

most of the time yuri couples consist of the awesome cool ~oneesama~ and a timid adorable everygirl

at least, the major ones really come off like that

no, you're right

Hm, most of the yuri couples I like don't follow that, but thats probably because I'm a manga person

then there are series like Maria-sama ga Miteru that point out just what's wrong with this formula

Urgh, maria-sama

yeah, I didn't say all of them follow it

but a LOT of them do

Especially the older ones, yeah

it

well, consider the culture

Japan appreciates conformity

and formula

Mainstream Japan sure does

even subcultures of Japan can be like that, though

take the Visual movement

they have a lot of rules on just how you're meant to portray yourself

so while they go against the grain of the mainstream, they themselves have very rigid rules on conformity

and if you don't follow them, you're ostracized

thats why I follow only a few subgenres that at least try to have some creativity and nonconformity, ahaha.

"We've got homosexuals casually appearing even on television. Japan has become far too untamed." The major of Tokyo on why manga needs

more censorship.

"Anyone who claims it's not harmful to children to draw manga that features the sex life of married couples and the such are idiots."

So, yeah.