Federico has
2011-03-11T04:13:46.000Z
anyone finished the DLC? /wants to talk spoilers & thurrrrries. Edit: SPOILERS AHOY. BE WARY, YE SCALLYWAGS.
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Malfatto
2011-03-11T04:14:16.000Z
-MUTES THIS-
Malfatto
2011-03-11T04:14:22.000Z
I haven't even touched it. D':
Leonardo
2011-03-11T04:14:31.000Z
FUCK I WANT TO
立即下載
Leonardo
2011-03-11T04:14:32.000Z
BUT
Leonardo
2011-03-11T04:14:39.000Z
I'M NOT DONE
Leonardo
2011-03-11T04:14:42.000Z
;_;
Federico
2011-03-11T04:14:49.000Z
;;;;
Salai
2011-03-11T04:15:09.000Z
I STILL HAVE TO GET THE LAST TWO PAINTINGS AND THEN GET LEO AND SCREAM A LOT
Federico
2011-03-11T04:22:08.000Z
LEO IS SO BUHYYOO
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:09:36.000Z
I'VE WATCHED A WALKTHROUGH
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:10:04.000Z
Cause I know it'll take years before I actually play it ;A;
Federico
2011-03-11T08:13:18.000Z
OKAY
Federico
2011-03-11T08:13:20.000Z
AWESOME
Federico
2011-03-11T08:13:24.000Z
HAVE YOU FINISHED IT?
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:15:00.000Z
YES YES
Federico
2011-03-11T08:15:09.000Z
DEM COORDS
Federico
2011-03-11T08:15:12.000Z
at the end
Federico
2011-03-11T08:15:19.000Z
I've done research on em already
Federico
2011-03-11T08:15:26.000Z
popped em into google maps
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:15:33.000Z
It's some place in the US
Federico
2011-03-11T08:15:37.000Z
yeah
Federico
2011-03-11T08:15:46.000Z
New York. Near the border in a place called Turin
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:15:59.000Z
Near....A place where there a battle or something
Federico
2011-03-11T08:16:00.000Z
there's a PoE called the Shroud of Turin mentioned somewhere
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:16:14.000Z
Really?
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:16:18.000Z
Th
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:16:37.000Z
shit, I hit enter. The Shroud is the Shroud of Turin?
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:17:07.000Z
Okay, it probably is. /google it
Federico
2011-03-11T08:17:47.000Z
Federico
2011-03-11T08:18:06.000Z
Other Pieces included the Shroud, which would become famous to modern day humans as the "Shroud of Turin"
Federico
2011-03-11T08:18:06.000Z
– that which covered the body of Jesus Christ, it's properties including the ability to heal the wounds of those it touched
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:20:22.000Z
Yeah. Ok. So it will be probably the next PoE
Federico
2011-03-11T08:21:59.000Z
hm
Federico
2011-03-11T08:22:10.000Z
I'm looking up any historical relevance Turin might have in the revolutionary war
Federico
2011-03-11T08:22:46.000Z
it's in Lewis County
Federico
2011-03-11T08:22:49.000Z
Near a city called rom
Federico
2011-03-11T08:22:50.000Z
e
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:24:05.000Z
Oh, have you seen the thurries of William M. = William Miles?
Federico
2011-03-11T08:24:19.000Z
yeap
Federico
2011-03-11T08:24:50.000Z
It's near the city of Rome
Federico
2011-03-11T08:24:54.000Z
which used to be
Federico
2011-03-11T08:25:40.000Z
Fort Stanwix during the Revo War
Federico
2011-03-11T08:25:58.000Z
It didn't fall to british advantages, possibly due to PoE help? The shroud heals, after all.
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:31:09.000Z
Hmmm. Yup, it won't heal a whole army at the same time, would it?
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:31:55.000Z
Also, I don't really believe in William is Desmond's father or anything. Why the hell would he put back his son in the animus?
Federico
2011-03-11T08:32:16.000Z
Well, think about it;
Federico
2011-03-11T08:32:29.000Z
They grow up in a farm that's literally a training place for assassins
Federico
2011-03-11T08:32:50.000Z
I mean, their cause is pretty damn important that just maybe it overrides paternal instincts for their child
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:34:15.000Z
Unless it's that case yeah....And Desmond didn't get along with his parents after all.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:36:10.000Z
mhmm
Federico
2011-03-11T08:36:22.000Z
I mean, another thing that I've been thinking about is
Federico
2011-03-11T08:36:29.000Z
why is desmond the one that has to be the one in the animus?
Federico
2011-03-11T08:36:46.000Z
If Desmond's father is his father, then isn't it possible for Desmond's dad to just get in the animus?
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:37:01.000Z
Because he is already under the Bleeding Effect?
Federico
2011-03-11T08:37:11.000Z
The bleeding effect won't stop someone from going in
Federico
2011-03-11T08:37:12.000Z
though
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:38:01.000Z
Yep, but long time exposure means he will get as crazy as 16 did and he started to show signs of it
Federico
2011-03-11T08:38:17.000Z
but 16 was forced into that
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:38:26.000Z
So, you know, sacrifice someone but not two.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:38:30.000Z
if Desmond's father did use the animus, he'd be able to do it at his own choosing
Federico
2011-03-11T08:38:55.000Z
again there's the thought of "do they have other animi other than Animus 2.0/Baby?"
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:38:58.000Z
What if he doesn't want to?
Federico
2011-03-11T08:39:17.000Z
He probably knows what he has to do
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:39:36.000Z
Yeah, it would be like...Sacrificing his son to accomplish the Assassin's goal.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:39:37.000Z
but William(if we're still calling him Desmond's dad here) has the choice on how long he wants to be in there
Federico
2011-03-11T08:39:49.000Z
Well that's what most assassinations are based upon
Federico
2011-03-11T08:40:02.000Z
kill one person to benefit the good of others.
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:41:30.000Z
I...Don't think they care about it anymore? In the credit roll of AC:B they do put him back "in the machine" even if Desmond doesn't want
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:41:32.000Z
to*
Federico
2011-03-11T08:42:11.000Z
Desmond's kind of a different story I think
Federico
2011-03-11T08:42:29.000Z
I mean, he's already consented to the shit they're putting him through, he *knows* that there's shit about to hit the fan and that they're
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:42:30.000Z
What do you mean?
Federico
2011-03-11T08:42:32.000Z
low on time
Federico
2011-03-11T08:42:51.000Z
I don't think it's really them TRYING to breech his free will or intentionally hurting him, but out of dire necessity to DO SOMETHING that
Federico
2011-03-11T08:42:55.000Z
they'll put his life on the line
Federico
2011-03-11T08:43:06.000Z
And I think Desmond's starting to understand that he's not the most important factor here anymore
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:43:45.000Z
Ah. Yeah, I agree with...most of that.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:44:23.000Z
Most?
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:44:50.000Z
Not the last point.
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:44:59.000Z
But I don't have counter argument so :|a
Federico
2011-03-11T08:45:30.000Z
My last point is arguable, actually.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:45:48.000Z
like, Desmond's got self preservation on the mind, I think--but he's aware that others are dying while he's sitting in a chair.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:45:53.000Z
But he knows he's not fucking useless
Federico
2011-03-11T08:46:10.000Z
BUT TO THE ONES WHO CAME BEFORE OR WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED
Federico
2011-03-11T08:46:36.000Z
like Juno and Minerva, he's a pretty damn important factor for them to do all this shit to get a message to him.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:47:19.000Z
But then for the ASSASSINS, he's a valuable resource, as well as an ally and a member--but he's not what's of the greatest importance.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:47:23.000Z
He's just a means of getting it.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:47:28.000Z
(PoE's, that is.)
Federico
2011-03-11T08:47:38.000Z
so it really does depend on from where you're looking at
Federico
2011-03-11T08:47:39.000Z
;w;
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:48:50.000Z
I was actually unsure about the Minerva/Juno part. If I had imagined this or whatever, that's why ;u;
Federico
2011-03-11T08:49:03.000Z
what? ;w;
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:50:24.000Z
I wasn't sure if Minerva or/and Juno had outright stated that Desmond was important to them or not, that's why I preferred to say that I
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:50:31.000Z
didn't have counter arguments
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:51:10.000Z
I....Don't get why the hell there's a POE in Andorra.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:51:50.000Z
Look up any major events in Andorra. There's probably a plausible story hidden there
Federico
2011-03-11T08:52:14.000Z
And Minerva and/or Juno specifically contact *Desmond*, which is sort of leading me to the conclusion that they're using him for something
Federico
2011-03-11T08:52:38.000Z
Their main goal is for him to find Eve and etc. etc. But as a son of Adam, he's pretty durn important to them anyway.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:53:08.000Z
Like, it wasn't "Desmond... and Jason and Paul and Luke and Marco and several other men... (insert the prophecy and instructions on what
Federico
2011-03-11T08:53:14.000Z
you need to do.)" inside that vault
Federico
2011-03-11T08:53:28.000Z
it was directly at Desmond who is most likely only one of MANY of Ezio's descendants
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:55:31.000Z
The only major event of Andorra la Vella (and not le Vella) is that Charlemagne has been there and used them as buffer between his kingdom
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:55:44.000Z
and the Moors
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:57:06.000Z
And it is more that probable that they are using him. But whether it is for one or the other side to win, or if it is for them to achieve
Subject 16
2011-03-11T08:57:39.000Z
their own goal -which would be the Ancient coming back and taking back the control? is unclear
Federico
2011-03-11T08:58:24.000Z
/rubs chin.
Federico
2011-03-11T08:58:32.000Z
I can't say I know anything about Andorra
Federico
2011-03-11T08:59:16.000Z
but if Charlemagne is involved
Federico
2011-03-11T08:59:20.000Z
there's definitely something up
Federico
2011-03-11T08:59:25.000Z
he was in one of the glyphs I think
Federico
2011-03-11T08:59:29.000Z
or his portrait was
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:02:25.000Z
Back to the place in America, they say that there's a crater near it so it can be possible that they destroyed the Shroud too.
Federico
2011-03-11T09:05:25.000Z
yeah
Federico
2011-03-11T09:05:31.000Z
that's the crater
Federico
2011-03-11T09:05:33.000Z
hm
Federico
2011-03-11T09:05:36.000Z
or it could be hidden there
Subject 16 was
2011-03-11T09:07:22.000Z
he? Can I accuse that guy to be templar because he set up school in France? It's the only thing I've learned about him when I was kid.
Federico
2011-03-11T09:08:05.000Z
If we're talking about Charlemagne
Federico
2011-03-11T09:08:09.000Z
a.k.a charles the great
Federico
2011-03-11T09:08:20.000Z
then he's definitely related to something religious
Federico
2011-03-11T09:08:33.000Z
he used to be all over my middle school religion workbooks
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:11:07.000Z
yeah, he was related to religion, I really don't doubt that, he had even been made Emperor
Federico
2011-03-11T09:11:32.000Z
anything charlemagne related
Federico has
2011-03-11T09:11:39.000Z
a good basis for being poe related
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:15:30.000Z
He was Otto the 1st and Napoleon's inspiration. So yeah, definitely something PoE related
Federico
2011-03-11T09:16:26.000Z
mhmm. There ya go~
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:16:35.000Z
Andorra haven't fought many wars, so they probably considered it to be a "safe place" and let a PoE here.
Federico
2011-03-11T09:17:01.000Z
or if there were any battles at all, they weren't major and they were hidden using the poe
Federico
2011-03-11T09:17:09.000Z
there's a number of things that could be said about it
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:18:20.000Z
Which is even more plausible when you know that Andorra was a neutral territory during WW2
Federico
2011-03-11T09:18:41.000Z
mm~~
Federico
2011-03-11T09:18:44.000Z
like i said
Federico
2011-03-11T09:18:48.000Z
I don't know much about andorra
Federico
2011-03-11T09:18:53.000Z
why'd you bring it up, anyway?
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:19:37.000Z
Bu then, Andorra is such a small territory that it would have been probably useless to declare war at it.
Federico
2011-03-11T09:20:03.000Z
land is land and land is power, bro.
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:20:57.000Z
Because I don't get why there's a POE marked here. I've been to Andorra for a week and there's....almost next to nothing to do?
Federico
2011-03-11T09:21:31.000Z
fffffffffffff
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:23:11.000Z
I know that it's not DLC related but why. fucking. Andorra D:
Federico
2011-03-11T09:23:25.000Z
FFFFFFFF
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:23:51.000Z
Oh yeah, that place is also freaking hard to access by car. And cigarettes and alcohol are cheaper.
Subject 16
2011-03-11T09:24:03.000Z
So unless templars makes profit from cigarettes, Idgi
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