like before i was judging it as a film but if we're going the hard scifi route then hahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
for one i mean if you're trying to make a hard science fiction story? and all the characters are fucking scientists?
i don't know maybe you shouldn't have them wandering the fuck around touching everything taking no precautions whatsoever
OH LOOK, IT'S A HORRIBLE FLATFACED SPACE COBRA!!
LET'S PET IT
oh no it took off my arm and killed me
who could have seen that coming
honestly there was literally no science in this story whatsoever
and not a single concept that was new or exciting or original or hasn't been written about and rewritten and rehashed since like forever
The Thing From Outer Space was written what sixty years ago?
even the thing with how David could talk to people in stasis is essentially ripped out of UBIK
and i don't even get how the monsters sometimes turned you into a zombie, sometimes impregnated you, sometimes made you horribly sick
KILLS EVERYBODY A DIFFERENT WAY FOR FUN I GUESS
it makes sense to develop a biological weapon that works this way
kills people one at a time in yes increasingly horrifying ways, pretty slow but horrifying ways
It's a Ridley Scott film as a lead up to Aliens ...so a lot of the concepts bleed over in that respect.
Also the deaths were different because of the continuous rapid mutation and development of the organisms I believe.
which isn't touched on in the film like at all
also if they tried so hard to distance themselves from aliens so i don't think the answers are actually in aliens
I got the general gist of it from the rapid development of the fetus actually. It doesn't necessarily have to be directly stated.
even though it's clearly a prequel
it's not that it wasn't directly stated; they really didn't say ANYTHING at all about it at any point that i remember
like the rapid development of the fetus ACTUALLY THAT WHOLE SCENE just seemed to be WOW LET'S BE AS CREEPY AS POSSIBLE
which, yes, it succeeded on those grounds it was pretty awful
which is actually a complaint i've had with aliens, like okay it has acid for blood and a double jaw that doesn't even do anything?
NOW YOU ARE JUST ADDING ON THINGS THAT ARE TERRIBLE
WHO WOULD ACTUALLY WANT THIS
but yeah i could give a shit about rehashed CREATOR philosophy what really hurts the film as serious science fiction to me is
the complete incompetence of everybody that wasn't idris elba
he was badass in this i actually liked him
i liked charlize theron too she was actually pretty reasonable until the very end
when she died i was like. ...... well you fucking idiot i guess if you wanted to stand under the crashing spaceship so badly
idk why movie people never move out of the path of falling things
no she was running just like
RUNNING IN THE PATH OF THE THING??
like movie people never think to run SIDEWAYS where the falling thing can't get them at all, they just run constantly underneath it
until it inevitable gets them because yeah HOW FAST DO YOU THINK YOU CAN RUN??
anyhow rapid mutation doesn't even sell it to me, because yeah idg why this biological weapon would "evolve" like a murderous pokemon
LEVELING UP INTO NEW LEVELS OF HORROR
until suddenly leveling off into the xenomorph of the alien movies
at which point it never mutates again, having reached the apex of horror
i mean i have fucking analyzed the shit out of stuff like Total Recall
it is not like i am a snob, i don't think i am anyway
but there is literally nothing to analyze here
THEY GAVE YOU NOTHING it's like the ending of inception except more pretentious
i didn't actually hate the movie i thought it was alright considering but i hate that "oh, i guess you don't really like scifi" shit
LIKE THE ENDING OF ME3 ALL OVER AGAIN
the biologist was the steve irwin of the scientific world, it seems
I'm not going to see it because I don't cope well with acid deaths. What did I miss?
I think they all came in contact with the ...whatever it was differently.
Halloway ingested the death from the capsule thing, Shaw had that crazy shit implanted into her with that crazy fetus, I think the biologist
And they didn't say what happened to him, or how those crazy cobra things were even connected.
They may have been just... around, which they didn't explain so it irritated me.
I thought the burned plastic/acid killed the geologist (who unfortunately ended up dying for having the sense to try and gtfo).
Also, what geologist can't follow maps/navigate?
You're taught to MAKE THEM. Maybe they're men and didn't ask for directions?
idk. It seemed like there was A LOT going on and too little explanation.]
Plus, while I think Shaw finally becomes badass... I get irritated at the MY CREATORSSS whining/faith/etc.
ngl that whole surgery thing was badass and made me like her more.
Ffff sorry I rambled on your plurk.
I thankfully saw this with a date and enjoyed it thoroughly just because we were laughing our asses off about every single one of those thin
we were very loud, actually, but all the constant REALLY?? moments deserved it
also he explained all the things they didnt explain so I benefited from his knowledge of the series but
I honestly dont know how 95% of audiences were supposed to get that shit
yeah my mom would point out things from the series.
I knew David was going to be bad news bears just because androids are SEVERELY distrusted in the first aliens movie
at first i thought he was so obviously bad news that he'd turn out to be trustworthy after all, because he was SO OBVIOUSLY shifty
haha them getting lost ikr they had the whole thing DIGITALLY MAPPED plus people back at the ship that could help them navigate
i don't even know why they splintered off 'cause like, idk if i was freaked out that'd be SCARIER FOR ME? to run off alone?
but yeah obviously they went off by themselves so that they could die
I'm grumpy because I'm a geologist. You always pay attention to where you go.
Though, I wish they would have explained his like... crazy grasshopper yoga body bending return
haha I totally understand, my own field (linguistics) was bastardized in the first few minutes of the movie
for the record, no way in hell would David be able to talk to the aliens (not that his attempts at communication really worked out)
Because they had no idea what their language actually was correct? All the civilizations they influenced had drastically different
So their languages probably didn't stem from the creators or whatever they were called. Idk this is my amateur opinion.
no that is exactly correct
also even if you narrowed it down to one language we have no way of reconstructing it well enough to actually like speak it
since we have no real idea how old languages sounded
and even if you assume we can figure out what language and then assume we can somehow teach a robot to speak it fine
why would they be able to understand it...? it's been thousands of years man, why would their language remain static that whole time
Though, in the case of that individual, he seems to have been in stasis for a long ass time
I THOUGHT OF THAT but i think they said he'd been in stasis for 2000 years? whereas they'd been in contact with humanity way before that
and were coming back to kill us, right?
SO HE STILL SHOULD BE OUT OF THE HUMAN LANGUAGE LOOP i would think
You're right. I had forgotten about that time gap. There are just too many questions that they never answered. D:
but isnt that the point? it didnt exactly succeed, it was just a theory.
are written forms more static than spoken?
DISCLAIMER I KNOW NOTHING OF LINGUISTICS.
nah it's just ludicrous to even think it would work imo, you'd have nothing to even work with, theorywise
writing is more static than speech, it is still sort of silly to think David could read it BUT that didn't actually bother me too much
SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF GOT MR THAT FAR