MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:02:06.000Z
.....I thought that spidertaur would get me better visual inspiration results on Google images than arachne but instead it got me a really unnecessary amount of Ed Edd and Eddy fanart
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MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:02:20.000Z
does anyone know why this is
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:03:09.000Z
there's art of girl OCs with one of the main characters
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:03:25.000Z
there's art of two of the mains smooching
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MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:03:33.000Z
I searched spidertaur
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:03:40.000Z
I don't understand
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:09:26.000Z
all I wanted was for someone else to work out how mammalian and arthropod....ic vascular systems can interact
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:09:31.000Z
that's all
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T06:10:07.000Z
(I'm stuck on that one myself. I like to not use magic as the response wherever possible)
MOVING
2015-12-09T06:13:24.000Z
oh my gosh
MOVING
2015-12-09T06:23:28.000Z
also I feel the need to direct you here, if only for art purposes
MOVING
2015-12-09T06:28:10.000Z
although, if you knew Japanese this might be helpful....
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:30:21.000Z
well
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:30:24.000Z
/cracks knuckles
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:30:58.000Z
at that size, an arthropod's exoskeleton is awfully heavy
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:31:42.000Z
and they don't have veins. or blood, for that matter.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:32:07.000Z
they have haemolymph which is just pumped all over the body without veins.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:32:29.000Z
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:32:30.000Z
so
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:32:51.000Z
if I were going to design a spidertaur/drider creature from the ground up
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:33:35.000Z
1. internal and external skeleton. The one to provide structure at a large size, the other to protect
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:34:13.000Z
circulatory system more mammal-like than spider-like.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:34:27.000Z
You got that lovely human heart in the torso, right. May as well make use of it.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:35:08.000Z
I mean. it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a creature to have two separate types of circulatory systems.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:36:05.000Z
haemolymph makes use of haemocyanin rather than haemoglobin. both is unlikely.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:37:49.000Z
you could go with a red iron-based blood or a bluish copper-based blood
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:38:23.000Z
but I'd still stick with veins and superior mammal heart, for a big creature
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:39:29.000Z
re: skeleton
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:39:30.000Z
turtles
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:39:51.000Z
turtles have the whole endo-and-exoskeleton thing going on
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:40:55.000Z
we're veering far away from arthropod I'm afraid but this is how I would do it
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T06:44:12.000Z
(shut up Jess /removes self)
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T07:03:14.000Z
aha
Jade is done
2015-12-09T15:50:34.000Z
Try drider
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T16:03:24.000Z
zerothlaw: no I was admittedly hoping for you. I was looking at all the haemolymph stuff like. I feel like this can't work this big
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T16:03:38.000Z
jadefishes: ooh thank you
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T16:05:52.000Z
gazzafizza: whoa thank you, that's very useful
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:06:18.000Z
... I like the idea that I'm known for stupid fantasy biology.
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T16:06:54.000Z
you're known for taking science seriously even when it's dumb fantasy stuff
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T16:07:13.000Z
which I try to do but I don't have the science background
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T16:08:59.000Z
but heck like. I'm p sure the spiders in dragon age leave a skeleton behind when they dissolve after battle so idk why the extra support thing didn't occur to me
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:09:22.000Z
there were times in our history where bugs did get very big, mind you
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:09:47.000Z
I think there was a prehistoric millipede that was the size of a car
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:11:45.000Z
but the oxygen levels in the environment were a lot higher, then.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:14:34.000Z
and the atmosphere was thicker in general
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:14:44.000Z
the carboniferous period was... sort of crazy
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:16:01.000Z
found it
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:20:11.000Z
but yeah, bring a lot of these creatures into a modern atmosphere, and well. They wouldn't do so hot.
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T16:20:25.000Z
To be fair, I don't think we'd do so well in the carboniferous period either
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T16:49:37.000Z
cooool
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T18:01:11.000Z
although, re: dragon age
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T18:02:06.000Z
dragon age is a setting where magic is everywhere and it's entirely plausible for an organism to use magic as part of its biology
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T18:03:01.000Z
I still stand by my theory that lyrium uses a process akin to photosynthesis but using magic instead of light
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T18:05:59.000Z
dragons are of animal intelligence but use a form of magical mind control
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T18:08:00.000Z
but yeah. magical handwaving is not always the answer
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T18:32:08.000Z
oh absolutely, but it's looking at magic like its own scientific force
MaleaBotor
2015-12-09T18:32:13.000Z
I'm all about that
Tɪᴇʟ Dᴇᴀʀ
2015-12-09T18:32:33.000Z
yes totally
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