sorry for the delay, I didn't realize it wasn't up yet
I'm mobile rn but I have decent signal here so let's talk about what we need to do!
a summary of all the results yesterday would be great
since I know a lot of them went up pretty late
I'm off to work but my suggestion is to not open up bodies for a phone
too late zia
>:[
the first time jason sees liz naked he's gutting her. how rude
fuck
ok so summary of experiments: weapons test was inconclusive, blackout attempt was inconclusive, autopsies were horrible
the robot arm was probably what was used on liz so I can put that up
throwing the dummy into space got us 10 minutes
I think kyuu talked about strip searches as well
oh yes professional dummy throwing
an Olympic sport worthy of cradle
shit sorry cappy i got caught up w rl stuff i forgot today was dentist appt
comments for notifs
notifs and also yes we should clearly have a stripping party today
get naked
Comments for notifs
comments and working on timeline
but a summary would be great yeah bc i crashed
i think the main thing we have to figure out is the blackout
it doesn't seem to have been caused by the robot right?
not according to the robot murder yesterday
yeah nothing happened when they threw a robot at it
except robot death
but yes even suspects can do summaries if anyone wants to do it!
ok so
alice told dorian yesterday straight up -
she wouldn't be able to open doors and shit for the killer if they asked
so clearly there's a way to do this
i don't really think 'they're aliens so they just can' is the answer
would it be worth it if someone who can fly went down the drop in the fuel reserve and see if anything went down there
I mean it cant hurt probably
i think its truly incredible how
somehow, every week
the timeline just gets harder
sorry siz.................
its why you have to live siz
could someone look up for me
dorian survives on sheer power of timelines, as he should
when jesse said she last saw totty
i think it was in totty's room search
I looked through jessie's comments on the post but I don't think she said specifically. she said she was on patrol so he wasn't sleeping in her room
I think that's fine even normally isn't it?
just a heads up but i won't be around most of today so if jack is needed for something in particular give me a ping!
its fine for suspects to put up their findings yes!
re: rune he is asleep rn let me see if i can get to him
there was the freezer, airlock dummy test, weapons test, fuel reserve and airlock test, yep
I can put up the results of the blackout test but I might be a little slow bc I'm mobile
I'm mobile too but I can do weapons? tho faildere Adam figured out it was probably the robot arm right?
yeah I can toplevel with that once the summary is up unless we don't want to wait on that
uh.... 
since he knows what caused it and I hate mobile I'll leave it to Adam
but summary wise I dont think anyone volunteered to write one yet?
sure I can do it now
the true hell
speaking of mobile i'm out for the next few hours so if you need emily anywhere please ping me!!!
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faildere since I think judar is the only non suspect left who can fly
in interest of time, you're free to handwave they sent him down the fuel reserve and he didn't find anything weird or off
ok thanks! so the robot arm is still missing 
also here is the stuff for blackout test if anybody icly wants to add anything, esp airlock crew or whatever
have we checked the victim's stomachs for the robo arm
I think we need to slice them open again you're right
I'm never letting that go. it is the kale salad of this trial
poor dave
Maybe we should search the culprits and dave's hammer space storage for it? Idk
Suspects** even
and yeah adam checked roxy's inventory yesterday and there was no robot arm
clearly you didn't look close enough into the apple juicebox
well we wanted to strip search anyway right?
dammit
dave drank liquefied robo juice
dave might need new tastebuds
are we stripping people....
what was the result of the airlock dummy test?
what time does liz have to be sent off?
yeah tho we do sometimes skip it
but if anyone not a suspects wants to start the strip search!! I'm being a terrible employee and I'm around
9:20
it took 10 minutes and they found her at 9:30
so she was sent off during the blackout
ok
what zia said
Talking about timelines I belatedly realize something I should have double checked 
im double checking now so ill let you know asap
and liz's body was recovered after 9:50 right
OKAY
yeah I believe so!
jason would have seen elizabeth
at uh
10:00-10:30pm
thursday
SLIGHTLY... NARROWS OUR TOD
handwave him mentioning this if you want because im super forgetful 
but yeah elizabeth was still alive at that hour apparently
idk about totty unfortunately
but jason talked to liz for a sec then
oh ok
lmao I didn't even realize that was weird
Jessie saw Totty last at around 7AM! She left on patrol and went to the incinerator then and he was still in her room, but she doesn't know anything after that.
7am thursday or friday?
Well, to the lounge and other places, but she ended up on the bottom deck.
Friday!
OKAY that narrows down our tod slightly then!
we know now liz was alive at least until 10:30pm thursday, and totty was alive at least until 7am friday
if we assume they were both killed around the same time then our tod is slightly more manageable
he was probably in his room, right? since his phone was there
wait
That helps narrow time so much jfc
jessie last say totty at 7AM??
*saw
madcapjest I'm asking to check for murder game physics but objects dont rly have weight in space afaik so
shh it's murder game space physics and momentum shh
OKAY finished timeline stuff:
Totty Liz Timeline - Google Drawings big timeline
LMAO ok just making sure
LF Timeline - Google Drawings Lower Floor timeline
i'll post these to findings, too
I swear I googled this and google said different speeds but WHATEVER
but lmk if anything is wrong bc this was complicated
the speed depends on the force you were thrown out afaik less than mass ... so it'd be complicated anyway
because the ship probably has some gravity that'd affect that too and. etc....
it looks fine to me! thanks siz!
if liz had to have been shoved out the airlock at the same time the blackout started i wonder if opening the airlock had something to do with it?
i feel like we're missing something obvious
it looks good to me siz
roxy left the recroom closer to 10:45 to actually get to her room by 11pm but I think I didn't note it in her ailbi laughs
I. Didn't immediately realize lf was lower floor either so we're fine
... it took me a moment too like who is lf?? they are so mysterious
Thank you siz for the timeline
i've got some questions about alibis:
oh my god lucy
I JUST SAW ADAM'S STUPID BALLOON COMPENSATION Wtf I want a balloon
chocoletto and mercurialfelines: would emily and roxy have seen each other in the rex room from 9:45 - 10:45
oh my god all u guys
Take the balloon for Adrien Zia it's currently tied to Luke's leash
yeah they did! I think emily said so yesterday
aaaand alternatively and mercurialfelines would luke and roxy have seen each other in the archive from 9 - 9:45
yeah they saw each other
um luke's leash needs that balloon leave it alone
They could have in theory ig I know he was dragging Adam around looking for books so I guess that's up to Megan!
no I want my own balloon I'm rioting
I'm okay with it
preferential treatment!!!! at least give adrien a ball of yarn or a laser pointer
only if you solve the case
laughs yes roxy was There being a nerd so unless they were. hiding behind bookshelves making out they would have seen each other in theory?
also what where are there balloons I want one too
Nobody was making out in the archives gosh 
then ok let's say yes
then ok let's say yes
im laughing at the balloon
thanks alice
how long will the balloon last, can it be sitting in luke's room forever just staring like 
yes if you ask alice may refill the air in it or send in a new one if it deflates who knows
thank you this was very important to me
we gotta solve the case ill totally make chat go nuts over a laser pointer dont think I wont
that most important prize
time to solve this case for laser pointers
let us play our cat
Jfc
assuming our cat isnt an alien
Ok so now that we have timelines and info, what should b our next step?
I mean listen if he is and you solve it you can still play with him??? best possible ending
i know strip searches were suggested last night but idk if they're necessary
stripping probably?
also we need to figure out why totty left his room without his cellphone
every time adrien is a suspect there is no stripping this sucks
because that is making me think he was lured out, attacked, and then shoved in the fridge
i wonder why two people were killed.
did he have a head wound? like. a bruise or smt
even if this is an alien kill,
bc why would he go without his phone otherwise??? he would miss so many selfie opportunities???
usually there's a reason
jason checked for bruises but nada
Hey question re
hone and I probably have to ask rune since I missed the window last night. Did we confirm the video from the top deck totty took is still on his phone
hone and I probably have to ask rune since I missed the window last night. Did we confirm the video from the top deck totty took is still on his phone
just the multiple stab wounds
Jessie said she was still looking but ye
its still on tottys phone
i dont think we did?
she topleveled about it
good to know
then couldn't he have been led all the way to the freezer? if he wasn't knocked out
so far it doesn't seem like a vulnerable tool was used, right?
but there was a screw with totty's phone which makes it seem like it was placed there
we should talk about the screw maybe
yeah
Sorry. I read the top level and didn't get the impression the video specifically was still there but I read it late last night so I could have missed it.
we should totally talk about the screw
The screw is good
To clarify, Jessie specifically checked on him and Totty was alive and well
but if he was stabbed with the phone on him then shouldnt it be like
bloody and stuff?
And yeah, it said in the phone description that the video was still on it
Ok
or smell like blood at least
Maybe they lured him out by saying they had his phone
but how would they get it back in his room then
we dont have any evidence that the card was used right?
His handprint would work if he's dead right
I think pretty much anyone would be able to get Totty to leave myself, he's a nice guy
☆ Peachy
was
...a nice guy...
would the screw be from the vents?? did they check that in the room thread
if they told him they wanted to talk for a sec maybe he would have left w/o it?
its hard to reach the room vents iirc
It's about who totty would have possibly spoken to ya
remember shelley's trial
yeah but an alien could probably do it
true
we can check the vents jic
alice did say the vent map was unnecessary in this case tho so that might mean the vents weren't used at all
could the screw have been from the robot?
Why can't screw be from robot arm
oh true
yeah that was my first thought
the screw could be from the robot
yeah i think its not the vents
it was more of a bolt wasnt it?
robots have bolts
oh right a bolt
it is now
It is now
Lmao kyuu nice
but the bolt could be from our dead robot buddy
did totty beat up the robot
I think it makes sense since its arm wasn't ripped off
hmm... well, the robot arm killed Liz, right?
yeah
i talked about leading totty to the freezer if he wasn't conked out but
could the blood and freezer and etc wounds be used to hide another wound?
man this is going to sound weird but
it just feels like whatever is going on,
SO MUCH of it involves tampering with the ship in various ways
like the airlock and the doors locking and the power and stuff
that i wonder if
the robots weren't also tampered with
what if a robot just like
no because we checked totty's body and he didnt have any other wounds
dragged totty off
hmmm
that's horrifying
could any of our suspects be able to tamper with a robot?
i don't know how it would be done but i feel like with the other tampering,
robots being tampered somehow isn't off base
i'll ask alice
ask alice if robots could shut down
the power in the lower floor too
did we talk about the incinerator yet
nothing
yeah i'll check
which is kind of weird
roxy has hacking the others don't have anything
no.
is
it weird the incinerator wasn't used?
we've had trials where it wasnt used
both of the bodies have blood on them but no one burned any clothes like Adelina did
we checked closets and there wasnt blood on the clothes there
like I sent Jessie there specifically because it's the evidence room lmao
so unless someone murdered while naked
and I was like "huh"
do aliens keep their host's clothes while uh
being aliens
i dont know
Good question
stab wounds and head wounds bleed a lot
so its true its kind of weird there were no bloody clothes
that's. a disturbing thought since. does that mean lizlien and rhyslien were naked.
i know rhys's clothes were ripped
I thought the clothes got ripped and turned into shreds
but he still had
clothes
i'm pretty sure rhys is a nevernude
I mean, growing appendages and having the body tear in two can't be good for clothing
when being alien possessed
i think its
wrong to assume aliens alien'd while killing
liz didn't
this is true
oh yeah
and just on an ooc level
that's true, plus alice would have. seen them. and maybe been concerned?
since we don't really know what the aliens can do
since she isn't an alien fangirl presumably
i doubt the mods would make it a plot point in a murder
alice would notice if they alien'd right in the middle of a room, i think
yeah alice would have said something if they were alien'd
maybe
because she said it wasnt a conspiracy kill when harold got murdered
yeah
so i think...she'd notice an alien walking around
alice is just so
(strained grin) useful
she's an ai i guess blame the programmers
i, on a personal level
choose to blame jason todd
maybe we should start considering suspects's skills
just because he's available
jic this is a skills: espionage thing
rude????
jason and jessie the grieving widows...will find true love in each other's arms
oh my
thats too spicie for this ship
no thank you???????????
he's declaring celibacy bye
yeah I can verify alien skills/bodies/etc would not be involved in an alien murder
good to know!
also is there anything that needs a top level right now?
also I am officially in bad signal land
ill be around for a couple more hours so i can put it up
GANBATTE CAPPY.............
ok but now I need to see jason/jessie bc that is good soap opera nonsense
maybe they threw their clothes out the airlock?
wouldnt the homestucks have seen the clothes in space?
but also that implies they were
naked at 9:20
and somehow got dressed again
by the time the lower deck got electricity again
this is true
yea apparently murder physics apply there so...
from now on all killers should be naked
how are we on nudity anyway
y'all lewd
aren't we always
btw I know grell mentioned it but idk if she ever checked - is roxy able to intangible other things/people with her
well she can intangible her clothes
so i assume objects are okay
also realizing this now
but where did the knife totty was attacked with
come from
the kitchen?
god this is probably useless
but this is all from the cards
roxy is 5'6! also who knows but reading the cards is. probably helpful.
jessie gave her an extra inch for looking so great today
aw thanks jessie
our inventory items are a sword, a book, a flare gun, another sword, and adrien's trainwreck of a partner and his furry transformation
they were also all, except luke, on the lower floor
dave and adrien were together
making out
and luke was up on floor 3 which
i think might as well be lower floor since
no one else would be up there and you could easily elevator down
yuno was in the corner with an axe, then
thanks yuno
...would the elevator work with the power out, though? i think that could clear luke bc like
yuno didn't see our forbidden love. romeo and catiet
sure he could've elevator'd down right before the power went out,
would the elevator go down to the lower level with no power?
but the second it came back, everyone was bursting out of rooms
or would it have been
well, if the elevator has two sets of doors, the second wouldn't open
stuck
i don't see how he would have gotten back up
or the elevator could run on independent power
also remember that he met up with adam
between solo periods
so if he was naked/bloody or just sketchy it would have been noticeable i think?
I keep forgetting that there are aliens because I'm like "this doesn't really feel like an Emily thing"
WHY DOES IT FEEL LIKE A THING FOR ANY OF THE OTHERS
Asking Alice wouldn't hurt
actually i need to look something up
I'm laughing rune omfg
ohohohoho
OHOHOHOHO
does my ojou laugh and looks at the evidence
i'm glad people look at emily and think "nah she wouldn't have murdered people"
I think we can clear Emily
cradleproject | WEEK 10 - Trial Day Two top level
on the power situation
why can we clear emily?
sentry turret proximity mine stungun futuristic sword corrosi... bringing up the special tools
I can't fathom her managing to get that high up on the orb for the robot thing to happen
because why not using one
The investigation said Marinette had to go 40 feet up
use**
and even though I said Emily is good at climbing, I got confused, it's bungee jumping that's on her list
mmmm but i mean
we still haven't figured out how or why the orb was even done
yeah
including whether it was just a robot sent haywire
so emily could have still done it if she was an alien
i think it's pretty premature to clear her. but worth keeping in mind if we confirm the person
she didn't have to go up forty feet, there was just a forty foot drop right
climbed up there.
yeah it was just a drop
if she like
tied herself up
she could have gotten back up
oh well then never mind, it read to me like Marinette had to parkour herself all the way up there
Can we clear ANYBODY...
which would have pointed to Adrien, Dave, and Roxy, I think
luke bc he would never hurt anyone
but I read it wrong
so ignore me...
luke bc he's an idiot lbr
LMAO. FAIR.
yeah
yeah the elevator's the big thing to at least clear luke
Who wants to ask
I mean luke would ask himself but. Y'know.
i forgot... do vents go between the floors?
not like i think more people crawled thru vents but just to consider
adam is always ready to stan for luke but he's already asked things
cause they wouldnt have locked during the power outage... right?
yeah but we asked alice about vents
and she said the vent map wouldnt be necessary
oh ok
I can have Luke save himself tbh it's canon 
that's sad
stop??
luke is a strong independent woman
Laughs shit okay I'll have him ask Alice
I would think alice would appreciate that and take pity on luke
shows up to the trial with coffee
where do you need me or which teen girl am i interrogating today
okay so
how...did...the blackout happen
that's what we're trying to figure out still!
icly i brought up the stungun or mystery box
can we ask alice what the mystery box is?
i mean if it's in play, now's the time to know, right?
i think dorian is going to ask!
could the stun gun be powerful enough to cause a short circuit??? wouldn't that be a murder gun
my sticking point is that yesterday we were told there wasn't a lot of physical evidence
and if there was a tool then that would count as evidence....
unless it was thrown out the airlock!!!!!
like the clothes
from an ooc point of view
OR WHAT IF ITS INSIDE SOMEONE'S STOMACH
i don't think the mods would let such important evidence be destroyed
so i think "where did the blood go" is still something we need to consider
also
I'm rereading the investigation in a vain attempt to be useful but
The room itself is spotless; all the blood seems contained to the freezer box. Aside from the bloodied knife, the room is devoid of anything else.
☆ Peachy
is
the fact that the cold storage is spotless important...it seems like our attention is being drawn to that fact
maybe our culprit really was naked
Alice said we have to test the elevator theory ourselves btw!
BUT WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THE POWER WENT OFF
how do we turn the power off to test it
new plan
arbok strangles everyone until they confess
I'd actually like to do a test, now that I think about it...I don't think I ever proposed one myself before...
sure rune!! what is it
ok!
looks like it could be the mystery box
god
no, no, I don't think it's something I can test but it's driving me nuts
ugh
this case
dude just throw out the idea
even if we can't test it we need all the ideas we can get since we only have 5 and a half hours
but like how did no blood drip onto the floor of the cold storage if the door was open???
doesn't it seem really unlikely?
i thought about that last night and i wonder
if you were stabbing someone in there, blood would still splash on the ground
maybe totty was killed with one hit and dragged over there
stab jack and put him in there to test it
the rest of the injuries inflicted post mortem in the freezer
its possible to request one of the mystery boxes and do some tests yes also there were no other marks on totty
how many times was totty stabbed?
its hard to to tell but more than once for sure
so if someone was stabbing him, the knife would have to be pulled out, which would fling blood backwards onto the killer and floor of the cold storage, right?
did we miss bloodstains somewhere?
depends on how hard you take the knife out imo
if you're yanking sure but if you're doing it carefully
you could contain the blood to an are
i guess that's true, yeah
still, i think with the way the narration guides us in cold storage that we're missing something
I mean its p. weird that there is no blood anywhere else
but I thought both victims were just killed in the freezer honestly
yeah it implies that everything happened in the freezer but we just don't know how they'd get there
maybe its misdirection?
like arumat's trial
we thought he was killed in his room for the longest time
dorian is once again the killer
ok shall i make a top level for playing around with the mystery box?
yes dorian is the murderer for sure
yes
go for it!
vote dorian
write in vote for dorian
Question. Do we know for sure totty was stabbed in the cold storage??
MYSTERY BOX
there's blood inside the freezer but we don't know that for sure?
like i guess the obvious choice would be yeah they were both killed there
we know totty bled out in the storage
cradleproject | WEEK 10 - Trial Day Two OKAY MYSTERY BOX
dont write in dorian
but how would they have led two people to the cold storage
i mean
also i think judar's onto something with the "what if they didn't have to be there to open the airlock"
look at some of these suspects
yeah but i mean like
if they said 'hey come quick'
there would already be one corpse there
picture one person suspiciously carrying a large bundle
h...opefully liz would at least be suspicious of that though
...
given all of us someone would have gone to investigate
liz was carrying adelina's sword during the whole top floor thing?
Why are we talking about carrying bundles? I looked away
so maybe someone she trusted led her out because jason found the sword in her room
yeah we have totty left his phone and liz left her sword
so those are interesting details
we're trying to figure out the logic of whether they were killed in the cold storage
i'm wondering if the person killed both of them in their rooms
what's the least suspicious way to carry someone, i wonder
and then took the bodies away
wouldnt there have been blood there tho
piggyback tbh
without leaving a trail of blood?
yeah
liz was upright
the blood went down
They'd need to be invited in then or have the key card yeah?
yeah
invited in is the way to go i think
if liz bled upright
maybe she got hit and then immediately propped
up
does anyone want to join me to investigate the mystery box
at this point we trust enough of each other that hitting betray is the only way
so she wouldn't fall over
yes I want to
i can jump in too
bops in real quick so i can find this later bops back out
hit, caught, maybe piggybacked away
okay, I did some quick googling
there would still be blood on the suspect i think'
if they were piggybacked
whats in the box - Seven
you did not use that clip
oh my god
i did
why this
I was expecting dick in a box
dicks can'
t disrupt a ship's power
this is cradle
it absolutely can
XANDER NO
Let me know if/where I can hop in too
rantinous
is
luke gonna ride the elevator up and down
We need to kick off the power first but what if I just leave him in the elevator with his sad balloon friend for a while
yes. please
luke with a smiley face balloon is the most hilarious thing all day
Luke also just asked Alice if there was a second power source for the ship/where it is
the balloon is his supervisor, the only person he would trust luke with
its a fair point
He has a love/hate relationship with his balloon and he may be drawing on its face with marker
i think....correct me if i'm wrong but i think it's also important that the air and gravity were both on
implying two systems at work - vital systems and less essential functions
Yes that point too
because the last time we had a power surge everything was knocked offline
I'm using cartoon knowledge here but
wouldn't an electromagnetic pulse knock out power for a short while
that's what i thought
pulse mines, man
thanks young justice science
so
who wants
to press it
jason has to do it
don't even think about it jason just go for it
press it so it can do nothing
i'm 100% young justice is entirely based on fact
100^ sure even
100^ sure
100% sure
wow
what if I press the button. let me explode and die
the button means you publicly die
LET ME DIE
that's why the two valueds are making jason do it
Push the button Jason be the hero
push the button.
I wanna explode >:/
shhh zia we'll give you your gory adrien murder one day
no but for real someone besides me press the button i've done too much dumb stuff
everyone rushes to button to push it
otherwise adam will do it and we're getting a repeat of the turret incident
someone needs to swoop on by and just push it
i mean
Also when we are done button-pushing I wanted to ask can I top level a thing? Luke would be thinking we should also ask the suspects more questions so we can open up another round if that's necessary
grell swooped by with the flower bouqet
the one nice thing she did for liz ever
Is Luke on his leash because he will hit the button. Swoop in and do it.
and look where it got her
luke is always on his leash
luke swoops in a balloon trailing behind him
But mostly I wanted to ask about the top level thing
yeah toplevel!
also if you want to have luke push the button go ahead since I know you wanted to jump in somewhere
Lmk if you need me to button too if kyuu doesn't want to
why cant I push the button. curiosity killed the cat. let him die like this
Yeah he's. Impulsive enough to do it. Sorry all
SOMEONE PUSH THE BUTTON I'M DYING
GO FOR IT LUKE
IM HERE
kyuu we've been dying without you
I'm going, sorry, I'm mobile
LMAO IM SORRY...
Oh no kyuu go
y'all better kill me with that laser pointer if we figure out the murderer
Then I'll top level after that
okay time to push that button
I'm just glad jason will die instead of luke
we all just get
whooshed out the airlock
endgame
at least id be dead
time to die
i just realized
what if its an emp
device
and thats why it caused a blackout
youbetter have backed your porn up
on your datapads
jack falls over because his arm stops working
good thing we don't have any cyborgs
or
do we
what if we're all cyborgs
Whomp whomp whomp...
do robots dream or electric sheep etc
Mira and I mentioned emps
they're just in the conference room, right?
or a different room
conference room
conference room
we've exploded the conference room
we're all dead
except adrien
oooh
Yoooooo.....
so it is like an emp!!!!
young justice solved the case
would they still need to open the airlock or would it do it automatically tho
Elevator time now once we power back on?
we should probably do airlock test p. 2
yes
and see the range too
And also that
yea
time to test a bunch
seems like wherever you are, doors slam shut
so
im laughing at dorian just pressing it again
ᴍᴏʙ.
was
the person standing IN the airlock room?
Who wants to go where. My top level will wait til that test is done
apparently so?
the knife didnt have any marks of being used to prop the airlock room open
so the killer must have been there already
someone else make a top level for tests i have 2 in a row
i wanna go to dangerous tests
ok so some people should go to the airlock, grell and others?
yes!
adam can go with luke to get the elevator out of the way, someone else can come if they want
they probably need to
text adam and luke
when the power is out
and they can wait on the third floor
wait the power comes back on
after pressing it
yes it seems so
it seems like it just shuts down the power and locks the door in a certain area
Yeah
ok so tests we need:
press the button outside the airlock and see whether it shuts the airlock door
press the button from inside the airlock
elevator test
ping me if you need the cat! btw!!! since I'm starting to close up at work
and if it doesn't shut the airlock door, range tests
who is on button crew
i can! as long as you don't mind me mentioning that maybe they made a list on the board of things to do
sure
i have to run for a little bit so feel free to start without me but i may jump in when i'm back
i figure we should try to get these done as fast as possible
as fast as possible is a good idea
maybe we'll solve a trial with 30 mins to spare again
hopes and dreams
i WISH
LET US DREAM
but if we confirm that the killer HAD to be inside the airlock to not get locked out
then they had to have carried liz there before 9:20am
without anybody seeing them
and all we have are teens + luke 
well
they could have been seen
by todomatsu
who could have been the person to bring the knife to try to defend himself
but why would totty grab a knife but not his phone
i was going to say you can't fight crime with a phone but
its totty
exactly
so the killer probably had the knife from the start
and maybe lured totty to the fridge?
or something
Is it a knife or a scalpel? Couldn't a scalpel be taken from idk the bio lab?
it's a knife according to mod tags
knife matched the cuts
yeah
so the killer probably grabbed a knife from the kitchen
lured todomatsu out
Oh ok
and stabbed him in the freezer
actually what if elizabeth was in the freezer
and the killer was like DUDE THERE'S A CORPSE COME QUICK
so totty hurried out and forgot his phone
then totty got stabbed, left there
killer grabbed liz and got her to the airlock without anyone seeing
i'm wondering why totty wouldn't want to take pics of the corpse though
caused the black out
this is a good point
maybe he was dragged out?
in that case who would totty trust that much
but there's definitely evidence to the killer visiting him - the bolt's in his room
one of the teens maybe?
i dont think luke knew him that well
or emily
but i could be wrong
yeah in the absence of jessie who he trusted most we have to go for second best
so who was closest to totty on this list
(back)
wb
i think we should do the elevator test differently
don't give luke the button
i think we should press it from the bottom floor and just see if the elevator works
that's a good idea
like the issue isn't that luke was on the 3rd floor bc we can't confirm that anyway
just press it from the bottom deck
and someone on the middle/top floor
the issue is just how he would have gotten BACK to the second/third floor
should check if they can go down
ok so send luke up to the top floor
I was gonna ask why we are giving it to Luke because my understanding was we were turning it off downstairs and seeing if it functioned that way
yeah
yeah
send luke up
you said "it should probably be me" so i got confused
press the button from the bottom floor
and then tell him to come down
edits quick
go luke go
adam is also there just so he can confirm
do whatever you want with him, assume he went upstairs or whatever. Sorry I'm trying to do all of this on mobile and have like 35% of my power so I'd like to just tag what's necessary. Do I need
To do another tag establishing he went somewhere.
a quick note that coco and i are breaking for an early dinner so please ping either of us if you need something
im around as much as i am able to be rn so! it should be good, but jic mod tags are a little slower and it gives u pause haha
alternatively faildere if adam is with luke ran can just tag in saying they went upstairs? or ty can
yeah I got it
yeah that makes sense
and grell can keep the button
let's just do these quickly haha
yeah
the faster the better
who wants to say they're texting the dynamic duo to let them know the button's pressed
uhhhh i can do it i guess
dorian can't text well but he can probably pull this off
let man miscast in role of father text like a dad
"hello, luke and adam. is this working? i do not understand the furry passing."
...do the datapads work
with the power out
this is a good question
its not an emp since
i thought the datapads had their own power source
the power can be switched on
yeah
like a battery
so the datapads i assume will work? since its not like we're shorting the electricity out
yeah that makes sense
just flipping a wireless on/off switch
yeah datapads probably are on the same air/gravity circuit
luring totty to the freezer would probably not be that hard but why wouldn't he bring his phone....
also will I ever get home
the datapads work w/o power!
cool! i think we're ready for a mod tag
if you have a minute
theyll basically switch to a battery and will last for however long the battery will (probably no more than 2 hours but dont quote me just yet on that please)
yes!
so this means luke's absolutely stuck on top deck until the power came back on
no ins and outs while the power's cut....
yeah
but if he had the button,
So. The elevators work but they won't open I guess 
then he could get down, turn the power off, do all his shit, turn it on, and go up, you know?
its just that
i think it would be hard.
So it's assumed our killer was outside in the halls when they cut the power and locked everyone in
yeah i think so. lemme check.
I feel like we should do strip searches to make sure nobody is carrying the switch with them
I don't have the map up but where are the elevators in relation to the rooms everyone was locked in
walpurgisnacht another mod tag when you get a minute! sorry!
Or at least dump out the homestuck's hammer space?
Since they could have carried it there without anyone noticing it
Hammer space is invisible until you pull it up iirc
yep
roxy dumped out her space earlier iirc
probably in a bit
So. The archives would be closest
yeah but idk that that matters
other than dave and adrien,
every killer could have just lied about their whereabouts
no one would have noticed
Is the sylladex the same as hammer space homestuck-wise
yeah
luke mentioned looking at notes and with the whiteboard dragged to the conference room the notes would have still been there unless someone covered them/erased them
use the blank side of the board to make our to-do lists
Also he added his own notes but like. It hasn't come up
It's not that big of a deal but ye
just more info that luke was most probably where he said he was 
Yeah
We should probably focus on the people downstairs since they could have pulled this off more easily I think
Emily and Roxy were alone from 9:20 to 9:30 iirc?
Granted that's just my own head anon for what he was going up there too
ohhhhhh
*canon. Doing.
walpurgisnacht wait but its two doors to the airlock right
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is
the outer door still closed?
its just the one out to space?
the one that separates them from dying is closed
ok cool
so the whoosh door is open?
so anything INSIDE the airlock would be whooshed out.
but the airlock door itself is closed.
yes!
ok cool
whoosh door is open not the door leading into the room
So the killer had to be inside between the two doors to open the actual airlock?
no
other way around
LIZ had to be inside the airlock
the killer just had to be on the lower floor
but the killer didn't
Hmmm
since there was no power disturbance on middeck
and i'm disinclined to think that somehow dave or adrien pushed a button while ddr-ing
who was ddr-ing
at 9:20
So...Emily and Roxy?
Wait
one was ddring and one was watching right
dave and adrien weren't they? ddring that is
Is the non woosh door normally locked?
the nonwhoosh door is not normally locked
Because Roxy has.....intangibility
yeah but
She could have placed the body there, slipped out, and hit the button
tho shouldn't there have been blood in the whoosh room if liz was put in there? or no
it's not locked usually
so it wouldn't need intangibility to do it?
i don't think so bc
Not if Liz's blood was already coagulated/dry
liz was frozen from the freezer
remember alice also did decontamination foam
when dave and roxy came back
Not if all the blood was on her clothes
Also there was no blood in the airlock anywhere but we know for a fact Liz was there to get wooshed out so
ok. i'm going to test range.
ok yeah
Yeah but if Roxy just placed the body and slipped back into the safe area, then she wouldn't be contaminated? I think
i meant more would alice decontaminate the room itself
after whoosing
though did we ever confirm that liz was in the freezer? and not just frozen from space
So no blood
i don't know the difference between deep space freeze and deep freezer
nah bc
the killer didn't need to be in the airlock at all
at this point it's more
who would have pressed the button
some things are gonna be ambiguous rn like "why use a robot arm"
i hate having to pick and choose which questions we focus on 
More like who would risk mystery box
okay but is the non-woosh door normally opened? or no?
it's normally open!
or at least not locked
Would Alice tell the killer what the box was before it was requested??
did we confirm that?
i dont remember
i mean
we didn't ask afaik
we've been going into the airlock room all this time?
that's the non-whoosh door right?
and if she didn't tell us Idk why shed tell the killer
we should ask
yeah
no there are two doors
like in scifi you come in from space
and there's this decontamination chamber
where you get sprayed with foam and its separate from the rest of the room
Who wants to go ask Alice
so that's the non-woosh door
keeping you alive
which im wondering if that second door is open
because i remember asking yesterday if the airlock has two doors separating people from space and iirc the answer was yes?
but yeah we should ask alice
there are 5 doors
i'm picturing this like sci-fi movies tbh
airlock hallway of various wooshing noises
omg
i thought about this like
you got the door to go in the room
you got the whoosh door
when one is open the other can't be opened
the decontamination happens in the room itself no separate one
if the decontamination happens without any walls/doors separating from the real room
does the number of doors matter?
then it wouldn't be a sterile environment i think?
`The room itself also operates as a decontamination room, for when wayward souls return to the ship. There are showerheads lining the roof of the room that shoot out decon foam once a button in the corner
power up!
is
pressed"
from setting info
it's more like "is there a door separating the room from the woosh door"
HM
questionably sterile environment
why is cappy not here we need her artwork
for the airlock room
i have no idea?
also i'm so happy grell gets to be dorian's experiment partner 
best hair doing the experiment
best hair doing the experiment
sorry for just
i asked if there was a door before the actual airlock
dude no she would
saying what grell is doing lmao
but idk
dorian could be like "hold this" and she 'd be like ok
good
he'll make sure to look sexy while he's doing these things to make it worth her while
I'm nearly home so I think ill wait until I'm not on mobile to try to get this
haha i think we just need mod confirmation
tho mods can we get a new plurk this one is broken for me
they're at dinner rn
god bless you dorian you understand what this ship needs
walpurgisnacht is there a door or a wall of some sort separating the airlock room from the actual airlock? if that...makes sense....
o... [sits in broke plurk]
yeah this plurk got huge
quick shitpost while we have five minutes
all my comments are shitposts
give me a few mins to log out and make a new plurk but basically there's another door in the airlock with windows on it and you can see into space. that door opened. theres another door that leads into the
airlock that did not open. its still locked.
so we have two doors
no.
is
the door with windows locked normally?
i think the window door is whoosh door
seek a door that carries a whoosh
or the door that leads into the airlock?
makes ze joke leaves the plurk again
im trying to picture where liz's corpse needed to be during the blackout
so she'd get wooshed out
she would just need to be in the airlock itself, the door that lets you into the airlock would be locked, the exit door would open
new plurk is up!
yeah that's what i got too