ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:24:00.000Z
latest #135
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:24:25.000Z
which. I know is an unpopular opinion
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:25:05.000Z
but I thoroughly dislike what they did with Thor
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:25:51.000Z
I'm not a huge fan of Tony dying like. I know RDJ wanted out, but did they really have to kill him and leave his (adorable) kid fatherless?
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ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:26:43.000Z
also not a fan of Steve's ending like. All this talk of 'can't change the past, time travel doesn't work like that,' but then there's Steve traveling back in time to be with Peggy????
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:29:04.000Z
I mean. if he went back and stayed with Peggy, wtf happened to the man she canonically married, what happened to her kids?
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:29:21.000Z
i liked it overall but yes i share these opinions
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:29:37.000Z
which, I know there's talk of "well, he only went back to her for that one dance," but. really guys? I really can't see Steve having a dance with her, and then just walking away
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:29:51.000Z
he had a ring on his finger :-P
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:29:57.000Z
y u p
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:30:04.000Z
also like
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:30:13.000Z
it had good moments. there were things I laughed at. but I just do not like the ending
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:30:14.000Z
it erases the entirety of the agent carter show???
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:30:25.000Z
yeah, it really, *really* does
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:30:57.000Z
it also doesn't work with their own explanations of how time travel works in universe
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:31:03.000Z
right
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:31:19.000Z
like
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:31:26.000Z
it makes a good story but it really makes no sense
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:31:38.000Z
one of my biggest things with time travel is. if you're going to set rules for how it works, stick to your own damn rules and do it right
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-28T21:31:47.000Z
I assumed he didn't go back right to when he went missing but instead went back to the same number of years later than it had been since he was unfrozen
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-28T21:31:53.000Z
Which I think places him after Agent Carter?
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:32:44.000Z
maybe. either way, it kind of still wrecks the timeline for that particular universe
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-28T21:32:53.000Z
Yes there's taht
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:33:06.000Z
by their own rules, if he was changing the past, he should've been in a new AU, not. waiting for them when they turned around
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-28T21:33:10.000Z
Did we ever see her husband? Could it have been Steve using a fake name? (I'm reaching)
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:33:42.000Z
I'm not sure
papermint tiger
2019-04-28T21:34:24.000Z
yeah if he does that then it means Agent Carter isn't canonical for the official universe
papermint tiger
2019-04-28T21:34:31.000Z
man, i liked his ending because i didn't know that
papermint tiger
2019-04-28T21:34:36.000Z
now i'm like 'why'd you have to do that'
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:36:05.000Z
I think, if her husband canonically was Steve traveling back.... crap now I can't remember her name
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:36:28.000Z
what'shername, that Steve had chemistry with, but who was really spying on him, and was Peggy's niece???
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:36:34.000Z
sharon
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:36:41.000Z
wouldn't she had um. known. that her uncle was actually Steve?
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:36:51.000Z
thank you
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:36:56.000Z
well
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:37:05.000Z
if you go by dctv time travel, time sort of catches up with itself
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:37:09.000Z
when timelines are changed
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:37:27.000Z
so that could have been rewritten
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:38:02.000Z
true, but. they made this huge point that that wasn't how it works during the movie. They even visualized it with I-have-no-idea-what-her-name-is showing Bruce
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:38:57.000Z
I haven't seen the Dr. Strange movie, so I assume she's from that
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:39:34.000Z
eventually I will see it, but..... sitting through a Benedryl Cumberbund centered movie is not appealing
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:40:28.000Z
On another note; they could've used a lot more of the ladies than they actually utilized for the movie.
MindEvaporator
2019-04-28T21:40:39.000Z
my beef with the movie is like the length it kind of went to, intentionally or not, erase Ragnorok
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:41:15.000Z
like. the two point five seconds of the ladies gathering around Peter at the end to get the gauntlet through the battle was not enough
103 FOOLS
2019-04-28T21:41:40.000Z
I haven't seen Endgame and don't think I care enough lol. but popping in to say I enjoyed Dr. Strange. It's very fun to watch, if nothing else, and it's also about people giving a LOT of sass to butternut cabbagepatch's character when he's a dick which is great
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:41:43.000Z
yes the lady talking to bruce is from the dr. strange movie
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:41:50.000Z
Dententa no, I get you, completely
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:42:01.000Z
the plot of the dr. strange movie is essentially "learn to be less of a dick" lmao
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:42:30.000Z
XD yeah, wife keeps telling me that I'd enjoy them giving Strange grief
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:42:48.000Z
it's what made the snark between him and tony so good in the last movie
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:42:50.000Z
and. as much as I hate Cumberbatch, I do actually like the Dr. Strange character
spooky queer
2019-04-28T21:42:57.000Z
same
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:44:44.000Z
On the erasing Thor Ragnarok thing, yeah. the character choices for Thor in this movie felt like they were completely bypassing all the character development Thor has had over the years
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:45:11.000Z
like. suddenly he's back to beginning of movie one dumbass jock Thor???
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:45:59.000Z
(sorry, this plurk is bitching. a lot of bitching. but I don't want to spoil other people's plurks who enjoyed the movie, so it's all coming out here)
papermint tiger
2019-04-28T21:46:19.000Z
i think the only think i enjoyed about Thor is that he kept giving off a Big Lebowski vibe, which i found hilarious
papermint tiger
2019-04-28T21:46:34.000Z
but that's not exactly something you should base Thor's character on
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:46:40.000Z
yeah, no
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:46:58.000Z
I also dislike that we had a couple movies build up for Bruce having issues with Hulk....
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:47:10.000Z
and then it's all solved in a five year time jump that's off screen
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:48:19.000Z
like. I love Bruce, he's one of my favorite characters in the MCU (which is funny, because I've never been a Hulk fan), and they give us all this build up in other movies, since they can't get the rights to a Hulk movie by itself....
papermint tiger
2019-04-28T21:48:49.000Z
yeah i kind of wanted to see the way that happened
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:48:50.000Z
and then they off screen the climax, and it's like the most unfilfilling thing ever
papermint tiger
2019-04-28T21:48:57.000Z
it could have been really interesting but no
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:50:22.000Z
other beefs I had with the ending. Nebula literally killing her past self
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:50:57.000Z
which.... ???? how would she still be alive then? unless they went with "oh it's not really a killing blow, we're just never going to mention it again"
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:52:23.000Z
past Gamora just. vanishing, without a single word said about it in movie. which, my brother argued that that's where the next GOTG movie will be going, with Quill looking at her face before Thor walked onto the ship, but. idk, if just felt like they could've done a little more with that
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:53:11.000Z
also. how the hell does Tony freaking dusting Thanos and his entire army affect the timeline???
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T21:53:58.000Z
putting the stones back in their proper times isn't going to fix that, guys
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:11:04.000Z
They kind of had two conflicting theories of time travel in the movie. One is the once Bruce and Nebula explained. The other is the one The Ancient explained
spooky queer
2019-04-28T22:11:47.000Z
yeah i didn't like bruce in ragnarok either and this was so much worse
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:12:10.000Z
And I've had several timeline people be upset about thor's character, but also - I kind of get it. Like, his dad just died, and the first thing that he does as the ruler is get his ass kicked by his sister and start ragnarok and destroys his home
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:12:31.000Z
so, you know, he's probably not feeling awesome about that on top of not actually being ready to be a king. he's been out doing adventures the whole time
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:12:40.000Z
then Thanos shows up before he can get his people to a new home and safety
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:12:50.000Z
Thanos trounces them and kills 1/2 of the people on his ship and his brother
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:13:09.000Z
so, not a great start as being a leader, as having all this extra responsibility besides being a hero
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:13:27.000Z
and then when it counts, he didn't defeat thanos before he annihilated 1/2 the galaxy, including more of his own people
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:13:37.000Z
and when they do find him later, Thanos has destroyed his chances of fixing his mistake
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:14:04.000Z
it is not surprising to me, then, that Thor could logically have a totally breakdown feeling like a failure and carrying what is no doubt enormous guilt
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:15:27.000Z
and of course no one can convince him otherwise
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:15:40.000Z
but that's just my take on it, personally
Spooky Thoughts
2019-04-28T22:28:53.000Z
Thor's breakdown makes sense but it was def played for comedy in the film, which was my personal problem
Moulin_Hearts
2019-04-28T22:31:25.000Z
Yes, that I can see and agree with, though visually I think it did show just how much all of it had affected him. but you're right, it could have been handled with a bit more seriousness
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T22:31:43.000Z
if it had been portrayed as a breakdown and not just for comedy, that might've been one thing. but it didn't feel like that at all.
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T22:32:04.000Z
you definitely hit that nail on the head, schematise
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T22:33:50.000Z
Thor is also my absolute favorite in MCU (alongside Steve), so it just. felt like this complete travesty
Spooky Thoughts
2019-04-28T22:35:33.000Z
I think it also unwittingly made everyone else look like dicks for apparently just
Spooky Thoughts
2019-04-28T22:35:39.000Z
leaving him to rot for years
Spooky Thoughts
2019-04-28T22:36:01.000Z
and I doubt they thought that decision through when writing it bc they wanted the surprise factor but lmao
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T23:40:48.000Z
ffft, yeah
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T23:40:58.000Z
idk I think I just didn't like the whole time skip thing
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T23:41:38.000Z
also. wtf is going to happen to a world that just suddenly has doubled in population
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-28T23:42:15.000Z
I mean yes, it's just returning the planet to its population from five years ago, but suddenly getting that many people back is going to be problematic
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-29T00:14:13.000Z
Schools are going to be super awkward
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-29T00:14:33.000Z
Every class is a mix of snapped kids and kids that used to be five years younger than them
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-29T00:14:52.000Z
... I just realized there are bound to be families out there where the younger child is now the older child
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-29T00:14:54.000Z
XD yuuuuup
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-29T00:15:04.000Z
oh lord, yeeeah, there would be
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-29T00:15:12.000Z
middle children who are no longer middle children
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-29T00:16:35.000Z
also, I couldn't figure out if Ned and Peter like, slow-run-into-a-hug-ing at each other was supposed to mean only Peter was snapped, or they both were snapped. It felt like the former, but that wouldn't make sense with Ned looking to still be the same age
spooky queer
2019-04-29T00:16:36.000Z
LOL
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-29T00:17:19.000Z
Maybe they were just so happy to still be the same age
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-29T00:17:49.000Z
Also yeah I got where they were COMING from with Thor but the way they played it was... less great
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-04-29T00:17:53.000Z
that could be it too, yeah
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-29T00:18:14.000Z
It had me humming Galavant and... Galavant is a comedy
spooky queer
2019-04-29T00:18:22.000Z
i think it was the way they tried to make it about the comedic value, yeah
spooky queer
2019-04-29T00:18:34.000Z
thor is perfectly capable of angst
papermint tiger
2019-04-29T00:32:28.000Z
they probably wanted there to be some humor in there because the whole movie had a lot of pretty heavy moments
papermint tiger
2019-04-29T00:32:38.000Z
but a lot of the humor they decided to go with was... not funny
spooky queer
2019-04-29T00:33:05.000Z
^^^
spooky queer
2019-04-29T00:33:27.000Z
i think they were trying to go for ragnarok style humor, but it failed because it didn't work for the circumstances
Dr. Yubsie
2019-04-29T00:36:22.000Z
I found INfinity War had the same issue with tone problems
Ger
2019-04-29T16:32:14.000Z
I didn't love the whole thing with depressed!Thor being a joke but it could have been okay if it hadn't lasted for the whole damn film
Ger
2019-04-29T16:33:07.000Z
if it had been, like 10 minutes of him being deeply depressed and giving of Big Lebowski vibes, it could have been interesting for his character, but it lasted literally two hours
Ger
2019-04-29T16:34:05.000Z
also, not sure why they felt his depression had to be funny instead of sad??
papermint tiger
2019-04-29T16:36:03.000Z
depressed people are hilarious, don't you know
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-04T20:34:19.000Z
so
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-04T20:34:26.000Z
second watch of the movie
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-04T20:34:32.000Z
still don't like it, ffffft
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-04T20:34:50.000Z
I dislike it a tiny bit less, but
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-04T20:34:59.000Z
still unhappy with most of the things already mentioned here
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T02:22:04.000Z
i actually figured out the time travel stuff to my own satisfaction, if you'd like to hear
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T02:22:06.000Z
other than Steve's
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T02:22:14.000Z
Steve's probably will never make sense
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-05T03:02:40.000Z
eh. I'm guessing that some timeline divergence is just now missing all of Thanos' army. which is why I'm a little less hating it.
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-05T03:02:53.000Z
but yeah, the entire situation with Steve still makes no freaking sense
ѕo Hαıʟ Sιтнιѕ
2019-05-05T03:03:25.000Z 2019-05-05T03:03:37.000Z
Steve going back and staying should've sent him into his own timeline divergence, not had him still there in the 'prime' universe, as it were
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:09:30.000Z
yeah that's what i figure, the prime universe still has Nebula and Gamora still died and Thanos still snapped, but some time line has none of that happen
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:09:38.000Z
which is how Gamora is alive again, too
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:10:10.000Z
i did think of one way to make Steve'
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:10:15.000Z
s timeline work
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:10:39.000Z
so the same thing happens, they go over to the old man sitting on the bench, and... wait a second... from the back he looks... kind of familiar?
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:10:46.000Z
and they approach him and it's Stan Lee
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:10:57.000Z
Old!Steve is played by Stan Lee
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:11:23.000Z
and that still wouldn't answer our questions about Peggy but it would mean Steve had been there for everything in the series
papermint tiger
2019-05-05T03:11:27.000Z
which would be kind of beautiful
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