Jessie
1 years ago
[Students] https://images.plurk.com/36hlGRTs2JQs82TO3SGw1.jpg
It's been like 12 hours since I received this and I'm still not over it.
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Jessie
1 years ago
I just??? want to have a regular, unremarkable semester???
Jessie
1 years ago
"here's a missive about why I didn't value the work I owed you" legitimately not my problem, friend
Ho-ho-homicide
1 years ago
I love the bit how the other classes are super easy.
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Jessie
1 years ago
I can't even parse what kind of emotional labor I'm being expected to perform
Jessie
1 years ago
kindaklutzy: lol right?
Ho-ho-homicide
1 years ago
Right.
Jessie
1 years ago
I think that this one might be intensely anxious but in a way that reads as rude and hostile
Jessie
1 years ago
he's written some spicy emails to me already
Jessie
1 years ago
but I don't think he's aware of how spicy they are
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
why is retaining information in brackets
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
does he think you don't know what studying is?
Jessie
1 years ago
well, see, I'm a woman so I need these concepts explained to me in small words
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
Ho-ho-homicide
1 years ago
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
....................I'm sorry, is this meant to be a plea for leniency bc it reads as "I don't care about your class and might not bother to do it" which. Okay. Enjoy flunking, then????
Jessie
1 years ago
the weird thing is that he has about 0 reading comprehension? I've received like one piece of homework from him and he did it wrong
Jessie
1 years ago
and I don't think he understood me when I told him what was wrong about it
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
is that weird, reading this letter feels like every non-apology I've ever seen in one document
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
I don't think comprehension is a strong point here
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
I imagine, to him, it's like I have admitted this "failing" and that makes me a good person in their ways sort of backwards logic
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
the "I'm sorry but"
Jessie
1 years ago
https://imgs.plurk.com/QCW/l6X/Tak3GVRy8IdhuEkNXg8xLPbumYU_lg.png
https://imgs.plurk.com/QCW/4KN/ExOqs0cdUmSNZdT3xaSUgPp8DxD_lg.png
we had this exchange through email like two weeks ago
Jessie
1 years ago
I was livid
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
woof yeah I would be too
Jessie
1 years ago
and THEN omg the presentation he's complaining about! So it was their presentation day and I knew they were feeling kind of shaky because the three of them had been fighting (bc the dude was an asshole to both of his groupmates - refused to meet with them in person, behaved like this over text exchanges)
Jessie
1 years ago
and so I just blithely go overlong with my lecture stretching things out so that they don't have to worry about filling their full presentation time
Jessie
1 years ago
and before I can go over, he stands up and goes "PROFESSOR. ISN'T IT TIME FOR US TO PRESENT NOW?"
Jessie
1 years ago
and I'm like "..... Sure :-) /sits down"
Jessie
1 years ago
and then it was awful and they ended 20 minutes early
oshi oh no
1 years ago
jesus christ
Jessie
1 years ago
so when I'm giving them the breakdown of what went right/wrong, I'm like "I was in the middle of doing you a solid, why didn't you want it?"
Jessie
1 years ago
and he just kept being like "WELL I DESERVE AN A BUT IF YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO WHAT I HAD TO SAY THEN THERE'S NO POINT ARGUING"
Jessie
1 years ago
and like. CLEARLY there is an issue that I am not addressing
Jessie
1 years ago
but I don't want it to be my job to address this?
Jessie
1 years ago
I'm kind of okay with him just failing tbh
inadequate tits
1 years ago
"i focused on other classes and skipped this one because it's not important" what exactly are they expecting to happen here
Jessie
1 years ago
kyuupin: REMEMBER THIS GUY what a shock that he came back in a similar shitty way
Jessie
1 years ago
I don't know how to handle a handwritten note though
Jessie
1 years ago
should I send an email
Jessie
1 years ago
should I do the outreach I probably OUGHT to do as the adult in the room
oshi oh no
1 years ago
yes
oshi oh no
1 years ago
jfc what a pain in the ass though
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
I feel like this needs to be documented to cover your ass as well tbh
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
But wow, kid.
Jessie
1 years ago
this is also the same class that has the weird disruptive one that is probably highly autistic
Jessie
1 years ago
and I'm like.
Jessie
1 years ago
I can handle ONE behavioral issue in a class. That's normal. There's usually a character
Jessie
1 years ago
but I am not skilled at handling an entire circus
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
yeah that's a lot
Jessie
1 years ago
there are also two other people who WOULD be entire "omg this weird student" cases who are completely unremarkable because they're not THIS bad
Jessie
1 years ago
I wish I could be complaining about the weird girl who means well but absolutely derails any conversation that isn't about whatever she's feeling anxious about
Jessie
1 years ago
she just needs to learn that sometimes you can't say the quiet part out loud
Jessie
1 years ago
though tbh still better than the incel semester
Jessie
1 years ago
I think I just need to find a way to wiggle an appointment at not-this-university (unsure)
Jessie
1 years ago
ALAS it's the appointment that's linked to healthcare
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
"The incel semester" was. Yeeeeah.
Jessie
1 years ago
SAME UNIVERSITY.
Jessie
1 years ago
oh lol the nazi from a couple of weeks ago is also in this class
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
Cursed.......
Jessie
1 years ago
VERY.
Ho-ho-homicide
1 years ago
Wow.
Ho-ho-homicide
1 years ago
How do you make it through?
Jessie
1 years ago
I complain a lot on the internet (unsure)
Ho-ho-homicide
1 years ago
That works.
Jessie
1 years ago
lol ALSO IN THIS CLASS ACTUALLY! Someone stayed behind today to be like "ok so.... when are we doing stuff from the books?" and I'm like "I don't understand (shows the syllabus schedule again?)" and she was like "NO I MEAN. We should have started them right? So when...?" and I tried to explain the reading schedule again but with different words
Jessie
1 years ago
and she goes "YEAH BUT how much do we have to read?" and then I think I fell on "next week, read half of this book, then finish that book the NEXT week, and then the NEXT week we start on THIS book"
Jessie
1 years ago
and suddenly, HORROR crosses over her face as she understands that she is expected to not only read ONE book in her english class
Jessie
1 years ago
but she is expected to read MORE THAN ONE BOOK
Jessie
1 years ago
and I think that like. A this university, they're kind of catering to underrepresented students, and they're so worried about retention that they've put work into helping people through
Jessie
1 years ago
but to the point where they've gotten so MUCH "help" that they're not used to being asked to perform
Jessie
1 years ago
so the people who can handle challenges are bored and aloof and the people who need the support have never encountered a situation where someone has expected anything from them
Jessie
1 years ago
and then I show up expecting to run the same class I run everywhere else and it does not go the way it usually goes (LOL)
I mean Gosh can't you understand he WROTE A NOTE. Flunk the fuck head, let him pay for a failed class again.
...lolwhat
what the hell is this nonsense omfg
diet lyctor
1 years ago
And. And this is college right.
Jessie
1 years ago
this is Composition 2
Jessie
1 years ago
there is a prerequisite to get into this one
.pinkman.
1 years ago
lmao "you don't care to work on this class, so i don't care that you're gonna fail the class". basically i meaaaan...the audacity of saying they don't think your class is that important? okay, then you won't care if you get an F....
.pinkman.
1 years ago
also the repetitiveness of saying they thought it was a better use of their time to focus on other classes. say it as many times as you like...doesn't make it true.
Jessie
1 years ago
it's almost as if they could benefit from a writing class (LOL)
dragillionaire
1 years ago
I'm
spacey witchmas
1 years ago
I... lol?
spacey witchmas
1 years ago
does he think that because he was honest you won't fail him???
spacey witchmas
1 years ago
and hey maybe it was a better use of his time to focus on other classes, but in that case why not... drop... yours...
spacey witchmas
1 years ago
and I think that girl who didn't understand the syllabus wanted things broken down into "read chapters 1-10 by Monday", etc
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
wtf ... fail this child
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
it's not even... just honesty? i've been punished for honesty when really struggling rather than given accommodations, but this has such an air of LOL I DON'T CARE I'M NOT EVEN TRYING THIS DOESN'T MATTER TO ME which. i guess that's an "honest" admission but it's also super shitty and "okay then you're gonna fail???" is the only response i'd have.
diet lyctor
1 years ago
☼ ᴠɪʟ
1 years ago
"If you're confused on why you failed this class than (sic) it's because I was focusing most of my time on the other students, who put in the effort, came to me for help, and cared about the work enough to get it done. Just to clarify, I'm not complaining. You've made the choice to fail this class."
☼ ᴠɪʟ
1 years ago
jokes aside though what the hell
the groke
1 years ago
the sense of entitlement some students have never fails to amaza me
dragillionaire
1 years ago
definitely if he comes at you wanting to know why he failed later
dragillionaire
1 years ago
I would keep that receipt self-admitted proof on his part that he wasn't doing the work and didn't intend to do the work
Jessie
1 years ago
oh LOL I got an "I'm sorry I'm late" email from someone else in a different class and replied back something like "Don't apologize to me! I just thought your group should know that 80% of you are currently failing the course. Figured you might want to do something about that"
Jessie
1 years ago
I'm just like. What is this performance and who is it for
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
80%. that's. wow.
Jessie
1 years ago
it's an exaggeration (LOL)
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
do they have to make attendance or anything like that?
Jessie
1 years ago
but only 3 of them ever talk to me
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
... out of how many?
Jessie
1 years ago
A lot of them "make attendance" by showing up late and sleeping in the back
Jessie
1 years ago
there are 19 in that class
Jessie
1 years ago
On like the third class I was like "What can I do differently to keep you awake :|" and derailed the entire lecture to be like "Y'ALL. SERIOUSLY."
Jessie
1 years ago
because I do a lot of "pauses for group discussion" and THEY WEREN'T DISCUSSING and I was ending up like half an hour ahead of schedule every class
Jessie
1 years ago
and I'm lowkey like. Y'ALL WE CAN'T BE LEAVING EARLY EVERY DAY I'M NOT FINNA GET FIRED
Jessie
1 years ago
I get really stressed out in environments where people are acting like I'm holding them hostage (LOL)
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
shit. I am so sorry
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
That. Is legitimately sth I have never witnessed here at all. I have never seen a student (school or university) asleep in class
Jessie
1 years ago
oh THAT'S pretty normal, in smaller doses at least
Jessie
1 years ago
I usually have at least one person who's asleep (which could just mean I'm boring (LOL) )
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
it's... I don't think that exists here
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
I had a classmate in high school who spent the first year in the US and she would tell us about students sleeping in class and we all thought that was crazy
Jessie
1 years ago
wait really? Do people just sleep at night or something
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
Apparently!
𝔂𝓾𝓶𝓲
1 years ago
I mean people are tired but they wouldn't dare sleep in class in my experience
diet lyctor
1 years ago
I slept through most of high school, tbqh
My mouth is hanging open as I read all of this but I’m also like, my dude, in the time it took you to put this garbage note together, you could have probably done some homework??
diet lyctor
1 years ago
I somehow graduated with a 3.5 gpa because I took exams and turned in homework and shit but in school? Sleep through most classes.
diet lyctor
1 years ago
Since I was doing well in the classes nobody woke me up ...
dragillionaire
1 years ago
sometimes I struggled not to fall asleep because of either 1. poor life decisions or 2. classes TOO early (fuck you high schools for starting at like 7 am, it shouldn't be legal!!). but it was never every day
dragillionaire
1 years ago
And I wouldn't have dared in college, though I'm probably just. a goody two shoes.
Jessie
1 years ago
Still pretty sour about a lot of stuff so I don't want to open a new plurk for venting but if anyone doesn't have this muted already, SURE IS STILL A THING
Jessie
1 years ago
I think he might have been trying to communicate that he was deciding to work on English more but w/e SURE IS A SHITHEAD AND I'M INCREDIBLY MAD AND PROBABLY MISREADING HIM
oshi oh no
1 years ago
jesus CHRIST
Jessie
1 years ago
oh oops the original images weren't right and I don't feel like buying a plurk coin to get the edit button back
Jessie
1 years ago
https://images.plurk.com/5hjda5mZe718emHSR33l0S.png
https://images.plurk.com/112gHdH9wRxh0YSZemHEDZ.png
Jessie
1 years ago
THERE those are the right caps
Jessie
1 years ago
I usually try not to be THAT "fuck you" in writing honestly?
Jessie
1 years ago
that probably comes off as unnecessarily harsh and it DEFINITELY can be used against me if the student wants to take it there
Jessie
1 years ago
but my levels of Done are off the charts
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
......the dread as i realized you'd come back to this plurk..............
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
child. the fuck.
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
(i realize they are an adult but they're behaving like a spoiled baby so)
MRS SEPHIROTH
1 years ago
Jessie
1 years ago
LOL I mean I just had to give the "you are an adult and I'm not going to wipe your ass for you" speech so you're not wrong (LOL)
inadequate tits
1 years ago
the nerve of this fella
Jessie
1 years ago
google scholar has a citation button
Jessie
1 years ago
all he had to do was click it
Jessie
1 years ago
I never would have known.
oshi oh no
1 years ago
Jessie
1 years ago
I also got the impression that he's misunderstanding the assignment entirely but I didn't want to overload my note with too many reasons why he sucks
Jessie
1 years ago
gotta take baby steps so he can process the level of Suck
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
oh oh wait what happened with the plagarist
Jessie
1 years ago
oh I threatened to throw her out of the class, she cried, I gave her a second chance and she plagiarized again
Jessie
1 years ago
so I need to go through with the full reporting but I haven't done that yet because it's like 20 pages of writing and I have other shit to do with myself
inadequate tits
1 years ago
incredible
Jessie
1 years ago
but she's still showing up to every class and crying at me so I should probably get that done soonish because I'm just like "already submitted it, it's up to the folks upstairs now"
Jessie
1 years ago
except I haven't actually done that so she's not on pace to receive any consequences >>
net-zero trauma
1 years ago
/fart noise
diet lyctor
1 years ago
how do you take that second chance and fuck it up like that girl???
diet lyctor
1 years ago
I plagiarized in high school because I was depressed af and couldn't cope with doing the work, and I got a chance to resubmit and TOOK IT even though I was told I would get a C No matter what. And that was a gift because my parents talked to the school about my severe depression.
Jessie
1 years ago
oh because she's esl and doesn't know how to construct something at this level
Jessie
1 years ago
like I know HOW that happened I'm just past my ability to juggle the load of Things and I need at least a few of them to not be my project
diet lyctor
1 years ago
yeah that was high school's job
Jessie
1 years ago
ehhhhh sort of. people learn adaptive survival mechanisms
Jessie
1 years ago
when English isn't someone's first language, sometimes they feel more comfortable writing in their native tongue and machine translating to English. and that gets you through a lot of compulsory education
Jessie
1 years ago
the problem she's going with is that my assignments are like "read this thing and analyze it and have opinions about it" but as an ESL student she can't understand what she's being asked to read
Jessie
1 years ago
so she's in the deep end because she can't use the techniques she's honed to get by in the same way
Jessie
1 years ago
but she's not linguistically equipped enough to perform what she's been asked to do in an ethical way
Jessie
1 years ago
this is why most universities will have an alternate track for esl students to let them achieve their English requirement without taking english-for-native-speakers level stuff
Jessie
1 years ago
like I get it but there are only so many spoons
Jessie
1 years ago
and she has already slipped into some cracks and I can identify it but I do not have a spare hand to pull her out
Jessie
1 years ago
different problem than the guy who keeps writing me notes
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