tantrum
says
lol chicken nuggets. aka chicken soft serve. s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/...
kerosene
says
wa?
tantrum
says
mechanically separated chicken
kerosene
says
oh? that shit is tasty.
pink chicken...yum..
Shiin
says
so weird, ahahaha
good lord that looks so disgusting x_X
liquified meat.. ugh
Cra2y08
thinks
it's time to start distributing insta-spray meat in a can. meatz whiz, cheez whiz' retarded cousin.
Meatz Whiz used to be my porn name.
well i don't like meat, so.. yeah.
Brandon
says
I'll still eat it 
Cra2y08
says
im pretty sure it's gonna come back out looking the same as the picture rofl...ewww 
kerosene
says
i'm still skeptical. who pours food directly into a cardboard box?
tantrum
says
just read about mechanically separated meat ;p it's what chicken nuggets/hot dogs / ground beef etc. are
Shiin
says
I always kind of wondered what part of the chicken nuggets were made from XD XD
kerosene
says
i read a bunch on it after seeing this. doesnt say anything about being pumped into a box 
kerosene
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and i dont see it as being much different than spam
i think they're all in the same family!
Kayiko
says
That's probably some weird japanese flav ice cream. Like.. chicken, or pig... something weird
tantrum
says
here you go, a video of it being poured into a plastic covered box... but still pink and disgusting... 
I think I'm going to be sick
kerosene
says
is it really any grosser than what we're more familiar with? 
kerosene
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kerosene
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i mean, fuck, animal parts are animal parts. i dont know how chicken paste is more shocking than filleted muscle.
kerosene
says
mind you - im arguing the "controversy"/hype surrounding this picture going around. i find it neither attractive or abhorrent, personally
kerosene
says
what i think is gross is that before that machine was used people were using compressed air to loosen extra bits of meat off the bones -
kerosene
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and thus were inadvertently inhaling meat particles which their bodies produced an autoimmune response
kerosene
says
fun note - "chub" is mentioned in the last video. 
Shiin
says
I'm with Brad - sure it's kind of gross but so is everything else haha
Kayiko
says
totally. If you watch people make ground beef, it's gross.
red warrior
says
I am in agreement. I see nothing wrong with meat like this.
tantrum
says
i think all meat in general is gross. this picture is just so disconnected from the actual appearance/expectation of what enters your mouth
tantrum
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and that is where the interest comes from.
kerosene
says
haha, you obviously don't know my love for "chicken spread" that looks pretty damned close.
Kayiko
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barachan
says
with meat i kind of actually prefer that it not look too much like an animal's intact muscles haha
barachan
says
i can't handle anything like ribs or wings where you just rip the flesh right off the bone
barachan
says
but i don't like meat too much to begin with, anyway
I'm not really a fan of the whole process of taking meats and shredding them and forcing them through .. things.. i dunno
I feel like the less it looks like meat, the less people realize what they are eating and feel less 'bad' about eating it
kerosene
says
for once rose - we agree! MIRACLE OF MEAT.
kerosene
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but i definitely see your point kinar. i think there's a huge disconnect in the process of ALL foods.
barachan
says
well...chicken nuggets are mostly meant for children...i think kids are less concerned with where food comes from
barachan
says
i think it'd be real difficult to wean the west off its current "meat must be the primary focus of EVERY MEAL" mentality though ): even via
barachan
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presentation
barachan
says
imo everyone should start cooking at home. that's probably what turned me flexitarian right there -- having to prep meat is gross lol
kerosene
says
AGREED. and i hatehatehate the meat w/ every meal mentality. pissssses me off something fierce. it doesnt make you macho to eat a steak you
kerosene
says
BOUGHT from a fucking WALMART.
kerosene
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(no offense, sarah.)
Shiin
says
lololol I love meat but I don't eat it with every meal, hell I don't even eat it every day. Steak doesn't make you macho no matter where it
Shiin
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comes from, it just tastes good (matter of opinion of course)
Shiin
says
how does wanting meat with every meal become a mentality that elicits rage? it doesn't affect you directly
Shiin
says
I enjoy a good steak every now and then (once a month MAYBE) and aside from not being a dude I don't feel it makes me macho
Shiin
says
I'm with Bara - prepping meat IS gross. I always make Matt do it XD
Shiin
says
that kind of sounded like you meant it about me - I know what you meant hahaha
Kayiko
says
I'm not a big red meat eater myself. I might eat some pork ribs once in a blue moon maybe. Pulled pork is better for me. and Bacon.
Kayiko
says
But, the more processed meat get's, oddly, the more grossed out it makes me. i saw a thing of chicken nuggets today, and I had to gag at it
Kayiko
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now. I mean it's still meat, but soft serve chicken just seems so weird. That and it's like a hot dog, etc. you have no idea what's in
Kayiko
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there.
kerosene
says
oh man...pulled pork and hash how i love thee... but again, it's one of those lovies based on super spiced meat
the sound of pulled pork makes me cringe, prolly because we never had it growing up, lol
kina
gives
me the same shuddering feeling as the words "baby back ribs"
Kayiko
says
hahaha the name does sound mean XD. It's just pulling apart a piece of pork. Like if you would shred chicken. Or pull it apart. Now that i
Kayiko
says
think about it.. it does sound pretty gross to make it.
Kayiko
says
But it's soooo good. 
it's sad that animals have to die for my meals. but i always thank them for being so delicious.
and meat will never go away. if we didnt have animals, i'm pretty sure we'd eat each other.
kerosene
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Shiin
says
my thoughts exactly hahahha our bodies were designed to eat meat. sorry veggies!
Kayiko
says
such is the circle of life! Mufasa teaches us well! herbivores have been food to the carnivores for millions of years. So dont feel toooo
Kayiko
says
bad.
Kayiko
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We are just blessed with the guilt emotion.
kerosene
says
sort of....i read somewhere our appendices were made to handle raw meat or something. we're slowly evolving away from meat actually.
Kayiko
says
I dont know about evolving. Since we still have an appendices. It's there for a reason. We just learned how to cook food now.
our bodies are actually NOT designed to process just meat. our intestines are too long, we have more molars than sharp teeth (vs dogs etc)
but yeah not many people eat "just" meat either. meat usually has rotted by the time it gets to the end of our too-long digestive tract
we do better without it (with less, anyway) but it's not like we can't handle it.
we just can use more from vegs than meat; rather we get more energy from eating things besides meat
i don't really want to turn this into a veg vs. omnivore convo because i really could care less what you guys ingest but i thought this
page was interesting.
"Our omnivorism means we're capable of eating meat (useful from a survival standpoint if that's all that's available), but our bodies
aren't geared for it to be a normal, significant part of our diets."
It's more like.. yeah meat is fine once in a while. which everyone here seems to agree with anyway, but our culture definitely is under the
impression that it needs to be in EVERY meal
people shouldn't be harassed just for wanting a veg option when they go out. I really do love mcDonald's once in a while or other fast food
but it's just annoying because all i can get are fries. i mean i love fries, but not everyone ALWAYS wants meat in their meal
and you don't have to be a vegetarian to want a meal without meat in it once in a while. that's what gets me. you take a veg option at some
restaurant and ppl are like OMG ARE YOU SOME KIND OF VEGETARIAN HIPSTER EMO HIPPIE?!
...no, i just don't see the health benefits of having dead flesh at every meal.
JUST SAYIN.
kerosene
says
i eat meat but want tasty veggie options! i love fake meat tacos! 
kerosene
says
also - i kind of hate the teeth argument. that simply compares us (omnivores) to animals built primarily as carnivores
did you read the article?
it has some pretty good examples
kerosene
says
more just nagging at those who use dogs vs people as "proof" we shouldnt eat meat
kerosene
says
i DO like this point:
kerosene
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"Humans lack a desire to eat whole animals
kerosene
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True carnivores (and omnivores) salivate about the idea of eating whole
kerosene
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prey animals when they see them. Humans do not.
kerosene
says
We're interested in eating the body parts only because they've been removed
kerosene
says
from the original animal and processed, and because we grew up eating them, making it seem perfectly normal. It's amazing how
kerosene
says
much of a disconnect we've been able to learn about the difference between animals and food."
red warrior
says
Our species has been eating meat for hundreds of thousands of years, I'm pretty sure our bodies are evolved to process meat.
red warrior
says
homo habilis are our ancestors and they were hunter gatherers about 2 million years ago.
Shiin
says
omnivores. our teeth aren't all sharp because they don't have to be any more. humans have the capacity to innovate, that's why we dominate
Shiin
says
hunter gatherer societies of history - fruit and berries, sure - but also meat. that was hunted. ancient spear heads and arrow heads? yeah
Shiin
says
those were used for hunting
Shiin
says
evolution is a slow process but the processing and harvesting of meat today has made it unnecessary for us to act the way our ancient
Shiin
says
ancestors did. I don't need any nutritional supplements that a veggie might need from cutting meat out of their diet. not everyone, but some
Shiin
says
humans can't fully digest plant matter either, so there goes that argument. cellulose!!
Shiin
says
cave people ate MEAT
Shiin
says
it's not exactly a recent development
Shiin
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and since then it's been a part of our diet and our bodies HAVE adapted to digest it.
Shiin
says
like I said I don't eat it with every meal or even every day. I do think that these days nobody really thinks about where it comes from anym
Shiin
says
anymore, and that itself can lead to questionable practices regarding processing and "harvesting". but meat is in demand and always will
Shiin
says
be because that's the way it's been for thousands and thousands of years
Shiin
says
just because we don't go out back and kill our meals with our own two hands or perhaps a spear like our ancestors did doesn't mean we
Shiin
says
shouldn't eat meat, or that our bodies aren't designed for it.
Shiin
says
Stephi mentioned the appendix earlier, another interesting subject to look at that unfortunately we don't know too much about
Shiin
says
If it is there to help us digest meat, and once it is removed in modern times you can still digest meat, evolutionarily we've adapted
Shiin
says
knives, which have existed for many many millennia, have made having sharp teeth less of an evolutionary priority
Shiin
says
bottom line is I think if you ate meat exclusively you'd probably die XD that's why we're OMNIvores, I don't think anyone's arguing that
Shiin
says
I wonder though, how a vegetarian would have fared in ancient times
Shiin
says
by today's standards
Shiin
says
because our bodies have adapted to digest meat, dietary requirements of today's veg would be way different I think
Shiin
says
you know what I mean?
Shiin
says
interesting to think about.
Shiin
says
doesn't change the fact that we have adapted to eat meat, you'd have to take it up with ancient people lol
Kayiko
says
well.. if you look back far enough, we were once part of the ape family were we not? And Apes do eat both meat and plants. So.
Kayiko
says
but.. it would be funny to watch the first veggie man going around trying food. Like.. Poison Ivy.
Kayiko
says
and Kina just made me sick...
Kayiko
says
and not want to eat meat with that "its rotted by the time it gets to the end of your track anyway"
Shiin
says
some primates have been known to cannibalize
Kayiko
says
It's been documented. They do. And it is freaking messed up to watch.
Kayiko
says
They showed it one "Planet Earth" thing. At least we don't eat other humans because they are in our area.
At least we don't eat other humans because they are in our area.
Kayiko
says
They even catch lil monkey's and eat them.
kerosene
says
so why not eat cats, dogs, or horses?
Shiin
says
some people do and western society criticizes them
and western society criticizes them
kerosene
says
Would you?
kerosene
says
red warrior
says
I would.
If I ate meat, I wouldn't discriminate.. i tried anything and everything my grampa gave me, lol. the strangest being lung and tongue. ew.
but yeah.. dead animal is dead animal, meat is meat! i had caribou for xmas once! lol
and if you're gonna get squeamish over eating a cat, then.. you shouldn't be eating meat in the first place, IMO
Shiin
says
I have an "I'll try anything once" philosophy on life. some people keep pigs as pets and we eat those!
well, a lot of countries eat cats and dogs too, because those are dirt poor countries. and discerning tastes is one of the things that make
us human. It's fine to choose not to eat meat. but it's not the end of the world if you do.
come to think of it, the less meat you eat, the more meat I can eat. and the less plants i eat, the more plants you can eat.
so it really works out.
just remember, if the apocalypse happens, you herbavores better be fast on your feet.
and last point: to say why not eat cats or dogs if you eat meat is like saying well, you like salad, why not eat tree bark?
Coesistence without judgment, please. it's just food, it all goes to shit anyways. No point in debating how shit starts.
i have eaten tree bark! lol
kerosene
says
Because food philosophy on the importance of meat socially is based 100% on perception. If you love meat, but refuse to face the realities
kerosene
says
of what it actually is, then you shouldn't be a consumer of animal life.
kerosene
says
What differentiates a dog from a cow in terms of meat ethically? Jack shit. I'm pretty sure no one really jumped into the "eww, I wouldn't
kerosene
says
eat cats/dogs" because it was pretty obvious where that argument was heading.
kerosene
says
My personal view for meat eating is moderation. A huge peeve of mine is hearing women going "I really don't like meat THAT much but my
kerosene
says
My personal view for meat eating is moderation. A huge peeve of mine is hearing women going "I really don't like meat THAT much but my
kerosene
says
husbands whines if he doesn't get meat with every dinner". And it's fucked up that I've heard this on PLENTY of occasions. Typically men
kerosene
says
30+ seem to get that way - from my experiences at least.
kerosene
says
And at the risk of sounding like a dirty hippy - our planet can't support harvesting animals en masse forever. As much as we need to think
kerosene
says
about renewable energy we need to also think about sustainable food sources.
kerosene
says
If we simply cut back a meal or two a week in regards to our meat consumption we eventually collectively bring the demand back down to
kerosene
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reasonable levels so supply isn't sprawling all through the place and rampaging through our resources.
red warrior
shares
Lab-Grown Meat I thought this might be appropriate for this plurk.
kerosene
says
Related: While PETA normally irritates the piss out of me: abcnews.go.com/Technolog...
kerosene
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though their stipulations kind of...blow.
kerosene
says
woah - tangent: www.businessinsider.com/...